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		<description><![CDATA[This article, a complete guide to visit the Everest North Base Camp, was written by Harley Greenberg, who arrived in China in 2008 as a Peace Corps Volunteer. When not teaching he would always crisscross the country and his first visit to Tibet was in 2009. Today Harley is a manager at Wind Horse Tour. [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>This article, a complete guide to visit the <em>Everest North Base Camp</em>,  was written by Harley Greenberg, who arrived in China in 2008 as a Peace Corps Volunteer. When not teaching he would always crisscross the country and his first visit to Tibet was in 2009. Today Harley is a manager at Wind Horse Tour.</strong></p>
<p>The guide will cover the following topics:</p>
<ul>
<li>Can you visit Tibet on your own?</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>When to visit the Everest.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>How many days do you need to visit Everest Base Camp?</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Should you join a private or a group tour?</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>How to get to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Everest" title="Mount Everest" target="_blank">Mount Everest</a>.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>The most popular route: Lhasa to Kathmandu via Everest Base Camp.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Food and Guest Houses at Base Camp.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>What to do at Everest Base Camp?</li>
</ul>
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<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-MSjsPBf/0/M/i-MSjsPBf-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Shigatse" alt="Shigatse" width="520" height="345"/><font size="1"><em><span style="padding-left:40px">Tibetan prayer wheels for sales in Shigatse</em></font></p>
<h4>Can you visit Tibet on your own?</h4>
<p><strong>No. Sorry, but you cannot go alone. Chinese law is pretty strict about this. The only way to visit the Tibet is to arrange a trip with a licensed travel agency that can provide you the required Tibet Permits.</strong></p>
<p>In particular, a trip to Mount Everest Base Camp requires a TTB Permit (Tibet Tourism Bureau Permit) and a PSB Permit (also called Alien Travel Permit).</p>
<p>The TTB permit is issued by Tibet Tourism Bureau Office in Lhasa before you start your trip. This is often referred to as your &#8220;Tibet Entry Permit&#8221; and is required to board your train or flight to Tibet.</p>
<p>The PSB Permit or Alien Travel Permit is a special permit for foreign tourists to visit &#8220;unopened&#8221; areas, such as Mount Everest Region, and can easily be arranged in Shigatse (a town on the half-way between Lhasa and the Everest) by your guide. The process is very quick and it only takes about 1-2 hours, so normally it won&#8217;t affect your sightseeing in Shigatse.</p>
<p>Most of this will appear transparent to any traveler, except that when you are getting closer to the mountain there will be a few check points where passports, photos and permits will be checked by local authorities.</p>
<p><strong>The cost of your tour should include all the required travel documents as part of the fee. Notice that when you are <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/chinese-visa-application/" title="Chinese VISA application: a complete guide" target="_blank">applying for your Chinese VISA</a>, it’s better if you DO NOT mention that you are planning to visit Tibet.</strong></p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-TRFzZqj/0/M/i-TRFzZqj-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Shigatse" alt="Shigatse" width="520" height="345"/><font size="1"><em><span style="padding-left:40px">A wall of Tibetan prayer flags in the Shigatse open market</em></font></p>
<h4>When to visit the Everest Base Camp</h4>
<p><strong>Everest can be visited all year long but the best time of year is the middle of April to early June and the middle of September to middle of October. Both of these times are most likely to offer you clear skies and an unobstructed view.</strong></p>
<p>Many people are dying to watch the sunrise over Everest but the sun does not rise over the mountain. It does however set and offers a spectacular view.</p>
<p>I personally have been there in the morning and evening. No matter the sunrise or not, it is breathtaking to watch the mountain appears from a silhouette outlined by stars to the tallest obstacle before us. However it is cold all year so please dress warmly.</p>
<h4>What to bring?</h4>
<p>You don&#8217;t need any special gear to visit the Everest Base Camp. Just get a good jacket, decent shoes and sunglasses.</p>
<h4>How many days are needed to visit the Everest Base Camp?</h4>
<p>People ask me all the time <strong>&#8220;How many days would you recommend for a trip to Everest Base Camp?&#8221;</strong> to which I will reply that eight days is enough.  This includes your arrival and departure days in Lhasa, along with stops at the most popular attractions.</p>
<p><strong>However I recommend that you plan at least ten days. While a two days difference may seem small, it offers a couple of tremendous benefit to you:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>You are traveling at over 3,000 m. (10,000 ft.). Unless you are a marathon runner or conditioned high altitude hiker you are not going to be operating at full steam. A 10 days trip allows for a slower increase in elevation from the  3,650 m. (11,975 ft.) of Lhasa up to the 5,150 m. (16,896 ft.) of the North Base Camp.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>All routes to Everest  from Lhasa will travel via the China &#8211; Nepal Friendship Highway. With the extra time on the return you can venture through Daktuka cross the Bramaputra River and the Shuege-la Pass at over 5,300 m. (17,389 ft.). This allows for a peaceful drive through a less visited portion of Tibet, which includes several remote valleys that are dotted with traditional Tibetan villages and connected by the scenic grasslands.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Stopping  at one of my favorite places in the world, Namtso Lake, that is one of the three holy lakes within Tibetan Buddhism and a spectacular place to photograph the sunrise.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Last and perhaps most important. Rushing on a vacation isn’t cool. You traveled a long way to reach Tibet, let’s enjoy your time!</li>
</ul>
<p>Tibet Airlines is now offering flights in and out of Shigatse  three times per week. You could then depart Tibet from Shigatse reducing the trip by one day. I would not advise you to fly into Shigatse and go right to Base Camp: there is way too much risk of High Altitude Sickness.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-vDKz3DB/0/M/i-vDKz3DB-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Tibet" alt="Tibet" width="520" height="347"/><font size="1"><em><span style="padding-left:40px">The road down from Gawu-la Pass</em></font></p>
<h4>Private or Group Tour Choice</h4>
<p>When planning your trip one of the bigger questions you will need to answer is to go on a private tour or group tour.</p>
<p>A group tour offers the advantage for individual travelers to share costs but it limits your ability to adjust the route. The tour company where I work offers group tours to Everest with the options to return to Lhasa or continue on to Nepal.</p>
<p>A private tour gives you complete control over your route. If you are traveling in a group of three or more people I would strongly encourage a private tour. With a group of this size, the price will be about the same.</p>
<p>Or if you are a more social person, there are ways to build your own private tour and sell seats to help fill up the vehicle. This helps you to get the best of both worlds, but does require more effort.</p>
<p>One mixed approach is to join a group tour but arrive or depart Lhasa later than the scheduled date. Most travel agencies will be happy to support this request. It will allow you more time to explore the capital and perhaps take small private trips to some other nearby attractions.</p>
<p>A word of warning: please don&#8217;t expect to visit any monastery, temple or other attraction within or outside of Lhasa on your own. Per current travel policy for foreign tourists, a licensed guide is required. </p>
<p>No reputable agency will knowingly allow this and the consequences when you get caught are severe. You will lose your permit and immediately be taken to the airport to leave Tibet. In addition the travel agency and staff  that applied for your permit will be faced with troubles. Yikes! Not the way you wanted to enjoy your trip.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-Dnmb3p5/0/M/i-Dnmb3p5-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Everest Base Camp" alt="Everest Base Camp" width="520" height="345"/><font size="1"><em><span style="padding-left:40px">Harley hanging prayer flags at Gawu-la Pass</em></font></p>
<h4>How To Get To Everest Base Camp</h4>
<p>There are three ways to reach the Mount Everest and, more in general, Tibet:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/travel-by-train-in-china/" title="Travel by train in China" target="_blank">By train from cities</a> such as Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu and others.  Most routes will take about two days. The train travel is a spectacular landscape along the  Qinghai-Tibet Railway and warrants another article alone.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>By plane from any major cities within China or Kathmandu in Nepal.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Overland from Nepal through the border at Zhangmu.</li>
</ul>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-dD9tZtg/0/M/i-dD9tZtg-M.gif" class="aligncenter" title="Everest Base Camp Map" alt="Everest Base Camp Map" width="520" height="218"/></p>
<h4>The most popular route: Lhasa to Kathmandu via Everest Base Camp</h4>
<p><strong>The most popular route goes from Lhasa to Kathmandu via Everest Base Camp. Both the 8 and 10 days options discussed above will travel along this route. The road condition are very good. Joined with several historical and cultural attractions along the way makes it an obvious choice.</strong></p>
<p>Upon arrival at Gyato-la Pass at 5,220 m. (17,126 ft.) you will have your first glimpse of Mount Everest. You will then continue another 2 to 3 hours to reach Gawu-la pass where the first true breathtaking view can be seen of Mount Everest and its high peak neighbors across the magnificent Himalayan mountain range before you.</p>
<p>If you are heading directly to Base Camp, you will reach Gawu-la Pass the afternoon of your second day out of Lhasa. That is to say if you leave Lhasa on Monday morning you will spend the first night in Shigatse and late the second day cross Gawu-la Pass.</p>
<p>You will certainly stop to celebrate the view offered and if you are lucky and there will be  no clouds, the astonishing view will have an all star lineup of 8,000 m. peaks from left to right, which includes Mount Makalu,  Mount Lotse, Mount Everest, Mount Cho Oyu and Mount Shishapama. Toward late afternoon you will arrive at  Everest Base Camp.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-HTMsxvP/0/M/i-HTMsxvP-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Everest Guest House" alt="Everest Guest House" width="520" height="347"/><font size="1"><em><span style="padding-left:40px">Rongbuk Monastery at Everest Base Camp</em></font></p>
<h4>Food and Guest Houses at Base Camp</h4>
<p><strong>When you arrive at Base Camp, one of the first spots you are likely to see beyond the massive Mount Everest just a few kilometers down the valley is Rongbuk Monastery.  Rongbuk Monastery and its guest house is one of the only structures that support tourists and climbers.</strong></p>
<p>Food choices are thin at Everest Base Camp. The monastery has a small restaurant, but calling it a restaurant is very generous. They have instant soup, pancakes and other snacks. I would suggest to bring some food with you that can easily be bought in Shegar/Old Tingri, which is the last town from before Base Camp, about 100 km (62 mi.) away.</p>
<p>Lodging at Base Camp does offer both private and dormitory style, but all the bathrooms are shared. Bathrooms are not exactly 5 star, not even 4 star&#8230; I hope you are seeing the trend: the bathroom facilities are all latrines!</p>
<p>If you are planning to spend the night at the Base Camp, then be certain to bring your own sleeping bag, or you should be able to borrow one from your travel agent.  But please don’t pay to rent a sleeping bag, it should be included!</p>
<p>There are three options for those that choose to sleep here. All of them are very simple accommodations so please do not set the bar too high:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Rongbuk Monastery Guesthouse is open all year round.</strong> They offer double rooms, triple rooms, a dormitory and other style arrangements. The beds are a bit hard so if you have any back problems plan ahead.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><strong>Everest Tent Guesthouse is only open in the summer.</strong> The location varies each year to help reducing erosion from the tents that are set up along with supporting elements like the outhouse and cooking. The tents here are fairly large, not circus size but you can easily walk within them.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><strong>Zhufeng Hotel  is only open during the summer months.</strong> Be certain to check with your agent to confirm if it&#8217;s available during your trip.</li>
</ul>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-ng8sHvc/0/M/i-ng8sHvc-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Everest" alt="Everest" width="520" height="347"/><font size="1"><em><span style="padding-left:40px">View of the Himalayas from Gawu-la Pass</em></font></p>
<h4>What to do at the Everest Base Camp?</h4>
<p><strong>Perhaps the most unanswered question yet is &#8220;How close can I get to the mountain?&#8221;</p>
<p>The answer lies about 8 km. (5 mi.) south from Rongbuk Monastery. Here you will find the only signs marking the Base Camp and it will not mention Mount Everest. It will simply say &#8220;Mt. Qomolangma Base Camp,&#8221; written in Tibetan first, Chinese second and lastly English.</strong></p>
<p>This sign marks the further point that visitors can go, except for those who have a summit permit. Here you can enjoy the best view of the mountain, feel the wind blow down from the glacier fields, take all kinds of photos and marvel at the massiveness of Mount Everest.</p>
<p>The visitors&#8217; Base Camp is relatively clean and peaceful, I like to remind all clients to protect and not disturb the environment. Be respectful to ensure all future travelers can enjoy the same experience.</p>
<p>There are two ways to get from the guest house area to the Base Camp. The first is to travel by car or bus depending upon the season. In the summer the government will run a public bus to help reduce pollution, road congestion and erosion (the fee is 15 RMB). In the winter tour vehicles are permitted to drive directly to the Base Camp.</p>
<p>The alternate way is to walk along the road. The short hike will take about one hour. Personally speaking, there is nothing spectacular about walking along a dirt road, so unless you really wanna tell friends and family you hiked at Mount Everest, take the bus!</p>
<p>There is plenty of great hiking in Tibet and not far from Everest but we will let this topic for another time.</p>
<p>Most people will spend less than thirty minutes at the Base Camp. This includes waiting their turn to take photos or perhaps wait for a break from the clouds to see the summit.</p>
<p>When you are ready, your guide and driver will head off back toward Old Tingri.</p>
<h4>Next Steps</h4>
<p><strong>Arrange a trip to Mount Everest is fairly easy. If you are planning to travel to Tibet any soon please do not hesitate to contact me directly at  <a href="http://windhorsetour.com/everest-tour" target="_blank">WindhorseTour.com</a>.</strong></p>
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		<dc:creator>Furio Fu</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This guide contains pretty much all the info that you&#8217;ll need to prepare your trip to China: VISA requirements, travel insurances, vaccinations, guidebooks, planes and trains, hotels, internet and phone cards. Also, you&#8217;ll find tips on where to eat, what to bring to China, when to travel to China, how to avoid the most common [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>This guide contains pretty much all the info that you&#8217;ll need to prepare your trip to China: VISA requirements, travel insurances, vaccinations, guidebooks, planes and trains, hotels, internet and phone cards. </strong></p>
<p>Also, you&#8217;ll find tips on where to eat, what to bring to China, when to travel to China, how to avoid the most common scams and how to bargain.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>p.s. At the bottom of this post you can  download a Travel Phrase Book Chinese/English in PDF format. You&#8217;ll find the most common greetings, the most common food and drinks, numbers, how to ask for help or directions, as well as some useful sentences for taking a taxi and shopping. You can print the PDF e-book and use it during your trip to China ; )</em></strong></p></blockquote>
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<h3>How to get a Chinese VISA</h3>
<p><strong>If you want to travel to China you need a tourist VISA (also called L VISA). In order to get the VISA you have to apply at the Chinese Embassy or Consulate. <a href="http://www.visaforchina.org/" target="_blank">Here you can find</a> the closest consulate to your town.</strong></p>
<p>You&#8217;ll need:</p>
<ul>
<li>A passport with at least six months of validity and two blank pages.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>A recent photo of 2×2 square inches.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>An application form (you can download it from the website of the Chinese Consulate where you are going to apply for the VISA).</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Between 30 and 140 USD (the price depends on your nationality).</li>
</ul>
<p>You may also need (check with your Consulate):</p>
<ul>
<li>A financial proof.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>A return flight ticket.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>An hotel invoice.</li>
</ul>
<p>It will take between one and four working days to get the VISA. <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/chinese-visa-application/" title="Chinese VISA application: a complete guide" target="_blank"><strong>Here you find my complete guide to get a Chinese VISA</strong></a> (also useful in the case you want to come to China for business, study or work purposes).</p>
<p>Notice that if you only plan to visit Hong Kong, Macau or Taiwan for less than three months and you hold &#8220;Western passport,&#8221; then you don&#8217;t need any VISA. </p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-2Nq5Vn7/0/M/i-2Nq5Vn7-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="China trip" alt="China trip" width="520" height="347"/><font size="1"><em><span style="padding-left:40px">The Karakorum Highway: a difficult place to reach without a guide ; )</em></font></p>
<h3>Travel tour or independent travel?</h3>
<p>Many people are scared to come to China without a guide. The main reasons are probably the language barrier and a culture that is perceived as completely different. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t deny the fact that there is indeed a language and cultural barrier. However Chinese people are quite good at understanding what tourists want, especially if you are willing to pay!</p>
<p>Moreover, in the last twenty years China has built impressive infrastructures (airports, railways, subway systems, hotels) so traveling has become quite easy. </p>
<p>Finally, so far China is probably the safest country that I&#8217;ve visited. For all these reasons, don&#8217;t discard the &#8220;independent travel&#8221; option, if this is what you want.</p>
<p>However, China is a huge country and if you wish to visit several provinces and only have one of two weeks, a travel tour is probably your best bet as you won&#8217;t lose time trying to figure out how to get to the train station or to the hotel.  </p>
<h3>Travel Insurance for China</h3>
<p><strong>I strongly recommend you to buy a <a href="http://www.worldnomads.com/af.aspx?affiliate=slowtr&#038;subid=&#038;path=http://www.worldnomads.com/insurance.aspx&#038;utm_source=slowtr&#038;utm_medium=textlink&#038;utm_campaign=easy_url_generic" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">travel insurance</a> before to come to China.</strong> </p>
<p>Although basic health care may be cheap in Asia, if you get something a bit serious like an alimentary intoxication you will have to pay 3-400 USD (if you want to go to an international hospital where people can speak English).</p>
<p>Also, if you get really sick and need to stay at the hospital for several days you&#8217;ll most luckily end up spending thousands (or even ten of thousands of USD).</p>
<p>I recommend <a href="http://www.worldnomads.com/af.aspx?affiliate=slowtr&#038;subid=&#038;path=http://www.worldnomads.com/insurance.aspx&#038;utm_source=slowtr&#038;utm_medium=textlink&#038;utm_campaign=easy_url_generic" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><strong>World Nomads insurances</strong></a>. Beside medical care, you&#8217;ll also be covered in the case of trip cancellation, stole luggage or evacuation (just make sure to read the terms of service before to buy!).</p>
<h3>Vaccines and medicines</h3>
<p><strong>I advice you to update your diphtheria/pertussis/tetanus (DPT), poliovirus, typhoid, hepatitis A and hepatitis B vaccinations. <a href="http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/china.htm" target="_blank">Here you find</a> an in-depth guide on the topic. </strong></p>
<p>In any case you should contact your doctor as he knows your immunization history and can decide what&#8217;s better for you ; )</p>
<p>I also like to bring some medicines when I travel to Asia. There are three main reasons. First at all, communication may be difficult and you don&#8217;t want to argue in Chinese when you need an anti-diarrhea. Second, a lot of the medicines that you can find in Asia are fake. And you don&#8217;t want to buy a fake antibiotic when you need a real one. </p>
<p>Finally, our anti-bodies are different from the anti-bodies developed by Asian people. Hence Asian medicines aren&#8217;t the best fit for a Western guy (or girl) as they have been tested for people that have a different set of anti-bodies!</p>
<p><strong>Here the list of medicines that I bring from Europe: aspirin, antibiotics, anti-inflammatory and anti-diarrhea.</strong></p>
<h3>Travel Guides for China</h3>
<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of travel guides. However I realize that many people like to have a guide when they travel. If you really want one, just get the <strong><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1742202896/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=1742202896&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;tag=saporedicina-20" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lonely Planet China</a></strong>.</p>
<h3>Flying to China</h3>
<p><strong>I won&#8217;t suggest you any particular company to book your flight. Instead, visit a couple of flight search engines  such as <a href="http://www.vayama.com/" target="_blank"> Vayama.com</a>, <a href="http://www.edreams.com/" target="_blank">eDreams.com</a> or <a href="http://skyscanner.com" target="_blank">Skyscanner.com</a>. Then compare the prices and the routes and choose what works better for you.</strong></p>
<p>Some tips on booking an international flight to China:</p>
<ul>
<li>If you are traveling on a budget make sure to book your flight a couple of months before your departure or you risk to pay a lot of money for your ticket.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Most of international flights to China land in Beijing, Shanghai or Hong Kong. China is as big as Europe so you don&#8217;t want to land in Beijing if you are going to South China (unless you enjoy to take an additional internal flight!).</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Keep in mind that if you choose to fly with a Chinese company as Air China or China Eastern the 90% of travelers will be Chinese people. And the food will be Chinese as well. I love it so I often fly with Air China (the other reason is that Air China is the only company that offers direct flights from Italy to China for a decent price). But if traveling in a huge plane with 1,000 Chinese people freaks you out, then choose another company.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Turkish Airlines and Emirates seem to be the favorite companies of most of  people. Also, they often offer quite convenient prices. So you may want to pay a special attention to them while you are booking your flight.</li>
</ul>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-ZDwzjQH/0/M/i-ZDwzjQH-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="China train" alt="China train" width="520" height="347"/><font size="1"><em><span style="padding-left:40px">The Hongqiao train station in Shanghai</em></font> </p>
<h3>Hotels and hostels in China</h3>
<p><strong>I book all my hotels &#8211; and hostels &#8211; with <a href="http://www.agoda.com/asia/china.html?cid=1598521" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Agoda Hotels</a>. The reasons are that they have a wide choice of hotels and offer the best prices out there. I wrote a whole article on the topic, <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/hotel-booking-in-china/" title="Hotel and hostel booking in China" target="_blank">you can find it here</a>.</strong></p>
<p>Some tips on booking an hotel in China:</p>
<ul>
<li>Remember to bring your passport at the check-in as it&#8217;s compulsory.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>If you want to deal with a receptionist that speaks English either book with a 3-5 stars hotel or an international hostel. I&#8217;ve stayed in a lot of cheap Chinese hotels and usually there is nobody that can speak English.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Same for the internet connection. Cheap Chinese hotels most of the times don&#8217;t offer a connection. And if they do, it doesn&#8217;t work.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Internet and phone cards</h3>
<p><strong>Getting a decent Internet connection isn&#8217;t an easy task in China. The connection is slow compared to the West and many websites such a Facebook, Twitter, Youtube or WordPress.com are blocked.</strong> </p>
<p><strong>You can still access them but you need to buy a VPN service. At the moment I&#8217;m using <a href="https://www.astrill.com/" target="_blank">Astrill</a> but it&#8217;s not working that well anymore. I will update this info as soon as I get a good VPN.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Your western phone will probably work in China (unless you bought it on 2001). The problem is that if you use a foreign phone card you&#8217;ll end up spending a lot of money. The most practical solution is to buy a Chinese sim card. </strong></p>
<p>You can find a card in any news-stand that exposes the panel &#8220;<a href="http://www.chinamobileltd.com/en/global/home.php" target="_blank">China Mobile</a>&#8221; (中国移动通信 in Mandarin). However if you want internet access on your phone you&#8217;ll have to go to a China Mobile store. You can find them pretty much everywhere. In the case you choose this second option remember to bring your passport with you.</p>
<p>There are different rates for activate an internet connection on your phone, from 10 to 100 RMB per month. If you just want to check emails and a newspaper from time to time, then 10 or 30 RMB per month should do the trick. Be aware that in any case the connection will be really slow and it will be quite difficult to do anything else beside checking emails or chatting.</p>
<p>The procedure to buy the card is quite straightforward and if you charge 100 RMB (about 16 USD) you&#8217;ll be able to communicate for about a month (unless you are planning to spend your time calling abroad). </p>
<p>If you want to call abroad with your Chinese sim card you&#8217;ll need to ask to the operator to enable the international service. In this case you&#8217;ll have to charge at least 300 RMB.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-h7kvNkZ/0/M/i-h7kvNkZ-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="RenMinBi" alt="ATM in China" width="520" height="305"/></p>
<h3>Money, ATM and credit cards</h3>
<p>The Chinese currency is called <em>Renminbi</em> (RMB). However you won&#8217;t never hear:</p>
<p>&#8220;It costs 100 Renminbi.&#8221;</p>
<p>Chinese people use the word <em>yuan</em> (元) or, much more often, the word <em>kuai</em> (块), which literally means &#8220;piece.&#8221;</p>
<p>At the moment 10 RMB are worth 1.62 USD. You can use <a href="http://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/" target="_blank">this currency converter</a> to check the current value of the USD with respect to the RMB.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never had a problem withdrawing money with my European VISA or MasterCard from an ATM of a major Chinese bank (Bank of China, China Construction Bank, Industrial and Commercial Bank of China or Agricultural Bank of China).</p>
<p> <strong>Actually I&#8217;ve never had any problem withdrawing from any Chinese ATM. Also, unless you are on the middle of nowhere you&#8217;ll find an ATM pretty much at every corner. Just make sure that there is the symbol of VISA or MasterCard on the ATM.</strong></p>
<p> <strong>After inserting your credit or debit card into the ATM, remember to click on &#8220;English&#8221; so that you understand what&#8217;s going on.</strong></p>
<p> Shopping malls and high end bars and restaurants also accept credit cards. However in small shops or tiny restaurants you&#8217;ll have to pay cash.</p>
<h3>China by train</h3>
<p>I love Chinese trains. They are cheap, fast and connect all the country. Nowadays you can travel from Beijing to Shanghai in only five hours. If you considered that the train stations aren&#8217;t too far from the city centers while the airports are far away, travel by train it&#8217;s probably faster. </p>
<p>You can even go to Lhasa, the capital of Tibet, by train. It will take about 45 hours from Beijing or Shanghai though.</p>
<p><strong><a href=" http://www.saporedicina.com/english/travel-by-train-in-china/" target="_blank">Here you find</a> my complete guide to travel by train around China.</strong></p>
<h3>Internal flights</h3>
<p><strong>Even if I prefer to travel by train, China is huge and sometimes it&#8217;s necessary to take an internal flight. My favorite flight search engines for Chinese internal flights are <a href="http://english.ctrip.com/" target="_blank">Ctrip</a> and <a href="http://www.qunar.com/" target="_blank">Qunar</a> for the simple reason that they offer the best deals.</strong></p>
<p>While Ctrip is in English and accept Western credit cards, Qunar&#8217;s website is in Mandarin and only accept cards from Union Pay (that is the Chinese credit and debit cards circuit).</p>
<p>Some tips about traveling by plane in China:</p>
<ul>
<li>Even if most of Chinese airports are new and quite well organized, they handle way too many flights per day. Generally speaking, in the morning the flights take off on time while after three p.m. the delays begin. At night it&#8217;s a nightmare and most of the flights are delayed due to the traffic on the airstrips. Choose the time of your flight wisely!</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>The company that offer the best prices is <a href="http://www.china-sss.com/en" target="_blank">Spring Airlines</a>. It may be considered a little bit as the Chinese Ryanair. And, as for Ryanair, you pay for what you get. Don&#8217;t expect free food or too much space for your legs!</li>
</ul>
<h3>What to bring?</h3>
<p><strong>Beside the medicines, which I&#8217;ve listed above, and an <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000YN01X4/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=saporedicina-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=B000YN01X4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">universal electrical plug</a>, there isn&#8217;t anything special that I recommend you to bring to China.</p>
<p>If you like to read bring enough books or buy an <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007OZNZG0/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=saporedicina-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=B007OZNZG0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Amazon Kindle</a> as it&#8217;s very difficult to find English books in China. Even in Beijing and Shanghai the choice is quite limited (Hong Kong is the exception).</strong></p>
<p>Clearly if you are going to Beijng on January it will be bloody cold so you&#8217;ll need winter clothes. Conversely, if you are traveling to Hainan island you won&#8217;t need them (but in this case bring a swimsuit!).  </p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/what-there-is-on-my-backpack/" target="_blank">Here you find</a> the complete list of the things that I bring with me when I travel around China (and a couple of tips on how to pack your stuff).</strong></p>
<h3>When to travel to China?</h3>
<p>As I&#8217;ve already said, China is as big as Europe. Thus there isn&#8217;t a best season to visit the country. It depends on where are you going. Here some general advices:</p>
<ul>
<li>Avoid <a href="http://www.travelchinaguide.com/essential/public-holiday.htm" target="_blank">Chinese holidays</a> as Spring Festival (the Chinese New Year) or the October holidays. China has 1.? billions people and during these periods they are all traveling. Believe me when I claim that you don&#8217;t wanna be in a train station a week before Spring Festival.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>In summer it will be pretty hot everywhere (the exception is <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/traveling-south-west-china/" title="Traveling: South West China" target="_blank">Yunnan province</a> where there will be between 20 and 25 Celsius degree). Also, the South East Coast (from Shanghai to Hong Kong) is affected by typhoons.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>I don&#8217;t like Chinese spring. It rains a lot and in Beijing you even get sand storms! As an example, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangzhou#Geography_and_climate" target="_blank">here you can see</a> the precipitation statistics of Hangzhou (which is located 200 Km South of Shanghai).</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>During the winter China may be very cold (even -40 Celsius degree on the North). In Shanghai the temperature may reach zero degrees and it may even snow once or twice per year, but it isn&#8217;t that terrible. Conversely, winter is a good season to travel around South China as it won&#8217;t be too hot.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><strong>Autumn is probably the best time for traveling to China. There are few precipitations and the climate is temperate.</strong></li>
</ul>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-NcrFsbZ/0/M/i-NcrFsbZ-M.jpg" class="aligncenter"  alt="China travel tour" width="520" height="347"/><font size="1"><em><span style="padding-left:40px">Autumn in China&#8230; pretty cool, isn&#8217;t it?</em></font></p>
<h3>Common sense and cultural issues</h3>
<ul>
<li>Don&#8217;t take pictures of the policemen (especially in Tibet or <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/kashgar-old-town/" title="Kashgar old town – A glance at the Silk Road (Photo Essay)" target="_blank">Xinjiang</a>) if you care about your photo camera as they could confiscate it.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Don&#8217;t argue with Chinese people. It doesn&#8217;t work that way. If you make them lose face they will just become more stubborn and you&#8217;ll never get what you want. Be patient and keep smiling. You&#8217;ll get there. Eventually.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Taxis are cheap, safe and pretty much everywhere. The only problem is that the taxi drivers won&#8217;t speak English. Always make sure to write down the address in Chinese characters so that you can show it to the taxi driver.</p>
<p>Another good way to make sure that you&#8217;ll reach your destination is to get the phone number of the place where you are going (a restaurant or an hotel, for instance).</p>
<p>Call it as soon as you get on the cab and give your phone to the taxi-driver. He will understand what you are doing and the guy on the other side of the phone will explain to the taxi-driver how to get to his place. This tactic is especially useful in Beijing as the city is so big that even taxi drivers get lost all the time.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Another good way to move around a big city is by using the subway. Chinese subways are cheap, new and well developed. Further, the automatic machines that sell the tickets are also in English. Here you find the interactive maps of <a href="http://www.explorebj.com/subway/" target="_blank">Beijing</a>, <a href="http://www.exploreshanghai.com/metro/" target="_blank">Shanghai</a>, <a href="http://www.exploregz.com/metro/" target="_blank">Guangzhou</a> and <a href="http://www.chinatouristmaps.com/travel/hong-kong/mtr/lines-map.html" target="_blank">Hong Kong</a> subways systems.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Chinese traffic is the worse I&#8217;ve seen (<a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/traffic-in-vietnam/" title="How to survive to the crazy Vietnamese traffic (plenty of photos and videos)" target="_blank">beside Vietnam, of course</a>). Be careful when you cross the street! At the beginning I used to wait for some Chinese people that also needed to cross the street and use them as &#8220;human shields.&#8221;  Now I got used to the traffic and I don&#8217;t care anymore.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Don&#8217;t be surprised if a Chinese person spits on your feet, points at you and says &#8220;<em>kankan laowai</em>&#8221; (&#8220;look at the foreigner,&#8221; at least outside the international neighborhoods), yells at you while he&#8217;s trying to run over you with his electrical scooter on the sidewalk, pushes you when it&#8217;s time to get on the subway, &#8220;steals&#8221; your taxi (especially when it rains) or smokes on your face. </li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>At the same time, don&#8217;t be surprised if a Chinese person smiles to you, starts to chat with you or follows you to give back to you the wallet that you have just lost. Most of Chinese people are extremely honest and friendly.</li>
</ul>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-8tDTNpZ/0/M/i-8tDTNpZ-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Street Food" alt="travel to China tips" width="520" height="293"/></p>
<h3>Food and drinks</h3>
<ul>
<li>Don&#8217;t drink the water from the tap. You aren&#8217;t Chinese and don&#8217;t have the right antibodies to cope with it. You won&#8217;t die but you&#8217;ll very luckily get diarrhea.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Eat street food at your own risk. If you have already been to Asia in the past you have probably already developed enough antibodies and should be safe. If you have never been here, as for the tap water you are risking to get some &#8220;surprise.&#8221; If you are interested on how I got food poisoned in China <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/food-poisoined-and-suffocated-in-xinjiang/" title="How to get poisoned and die of asphyxia in Xinjiang" target="_blank">read this story</a>.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Nobody tips in China so don&#8217;t feel obliged to do so.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>
<p>Chinese food may vary a lot, according to the province. However you don&#8217;t need to travel to Gansu or Sichuan to taste the local food as big cities like Beijing, Shanghai or Guangzhou host an impressive number of immigrants from North and West China.</p>
<p>Click on the following links if you want to discover my favorite Chinese restaurants and how to find them: <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/food-from-xinjiang/" title="Food from Xinjiang, the Chinese muslim province (Photo Essays)" target="_blank">Xinjiang food</a>, <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/food-from-dongbei/" title="Food from Dongbei (North East China) – Photo Essays" target="_blank">Food from Dongbei</a> (North of China) and <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/chinese-food-malatang-from-sichuan/" title="Chinese food: Malatang from Sichuan" target="_blank">Malatang</a> from Chongqing.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-mWKM9Sm/0/M/i-mWKM9Sm-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Nightlife in China" alt="Nightlife in China" width="520" height="293"/></p>
<h3>Nightlife in China</h3>
<p>Chinese nightlife deserves an article on its own (coming soon!). What I can say here is that in Beijing most of the clubs are <a href="http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/beijing/listings/nightlife/" target="_blank">located in Sanlitun</a>, that is the expat zone close to Dongzhimen subway station. Same for Hong Kong, where most of the clubs are <a href="http://www.hkclubbing.com/" target="_blank">located in Lan Kwai Fong</a> (usually called LKF). As usual, Shanghai is a different world and <a href="http://www.smartshanghai.com/nightlife/" target="_blank">clubs are scattered</a> all around the downtown (the old French concession). </p>
<h3>Scams in China</h3>
<p>As I&#8217;ve already said, China is probably the safest country I&#8217;ve visited. Anyway, there are some common scams that target curious foreigners, especially in Beijing and Shanghai&#8217;s touristic spots such as Wang Fu Jing or People Square.</p>
<h4>Tea scam</h4>
<p>It goes like that: a friendly girl approaches you and start to ask you a lot of questions in good English (they are usually students). At some point the girl tells you that she knows a good tea house just around the corner and invites you to follow her.</p>
<p>You guys order something, drink your tea, eat your fruit and keep chatting. Then, when you ask for the bill, the waiter pretends you to pay some ridiculous amount of money (200 USD, for instance). </p>
<p>I knew several people that got scammed on this way.</p>
<h4>Taxi scams</h4>
<p><strong>Never accept to get on a black taxi, even if the queue for the taxi is long. You&#8217;ll most luckily end up paying a ridiculous amount of money.</strong></p>
<p>Most of Chinese taxi drivers are honest: they will always switch on the taximeter and bring you to your destination using the shortest way. However, especially on the airport and close to the most touristic spots, you may find some fraudulent taxi drivers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard about:</p>
<ul>
<li>Taxi drivers that leave with your luggage once you get off the cab. Hence I never pay before I took my luggage out the cab.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Taxi drivers that try to switch your money with a fake note and then pretend that you gave to him the fake note!</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Taxi drivers that take a route longer than necessary. This actually happened to me in Hangzhou. But I knew the city and told him that he was cheating me. He firstly got angry, then confused and, at last, only made me pay 20 RMB (that is an honest fare).</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>An effective way to avoid the most of taxi  scams is to show to the taxi driver that you aren&#8217;t a tourist by talking a bit of Chinese as soon as you get on the cab. You just need to tell them:</strong></p>
<p><strong><br />
&#8220;<em>Nihao shifu, wo qu XXX</em>&#8221; (it means &#8220;Hi driver, I go to XXX&#8221;) and then you tell him the crossing road where you want to go (Chinese drivers prefer crossing roads than streets&#8217; numbers) or show them the address.</strong></p>
<p>I know this seems too easy. However it works because even a lot of foreigners that had lived in China for awhile don&#8217;t know the word &#8220;shifu,&#8221; which literally means &#8220;master&#8221; but in modern Chinese is also a polite way to address drivers and other workers.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be a tourist ; )</p>
<p>p.s. <a href="http://yourenotfromaroundhere.com/blog/chinese-scams-beijing-china/" target="_blank">Here you&#8217;ll find some funny story</a> about scams in Beijing.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-QVZhFxg/0/M/i-QVZhFxg-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" alt="visit China" width="520" height="347"/></p>
<h3>Shopping and bargaining</h3>
<p>You can&#8217;t pretend to go to a shopping mall in Shanghai and bargain with the clerk just because you are China. </p>
<p>However if you want to buy something in a street or in a &#8220;fake&#8221; market such as the Ya Show or the Silk Market in Beijing, bargaining is required. </p>
<p>The reason is that the first price that you&#8217;ll hear will be inflated. Once I went to the Ya Show Market in Beijing and I asked for the price of a suitcase. The clerk answered: &#8220;1,000 RMB.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just started to laugh out loud and told her that I lived in Beijing and that she couldn&#8217;t cheat me like that (this was my tactic on the first months, now I speak Chinese and bargaining became way easier).</p>
<p>At the end I got the suitcase for 150 RMB, that is the 15% of the original price!</p>
<p><strong>Don&#8217;t be afraid to bargain. Actually they will think you are stupid if you don&#8217;t!</strong></p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-Z3NDRPr/0/M/i-Z3NDRPr-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Ya Show Beijing" alt="Ya Show Beijing" width="520" height="347"/></p>
<h3>Numbers in China</h3>
<p>A last piece of advice. When you want to buy something you can ask for the price by using your hands. If you want to communicate that you won&#8217;t pay more than 70 RMB, just show a 7 and a 10 and they will understand that you mean &#8220;70.&#8221; However notice that Chinese people indicate numbers in a different way (the one on the photo below). </p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-VJWTpjc/0/M/i-VJWTpjc-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="numbers in China" alt="numbers in china" width="520" height="233"/></p>
<p>Starting from the top-left corner, we have: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. </p>
<h3>How to communicate in China</h3>
<p>The best advice that I can give to you is to <a href="http://www.pleco.com/" target="_blank"><strong>download Pleco</strong></a>, a free dictionary that works on smartphones Android and iOS. You can write the English word and show the corresponding characters to Chinese people.</p>
<h3>Travel Phrase Book Chinese/English</h3>
<p>Since I believe that this article may be useful to a lot of people I&#8217;ve decided to make you &#8220;pay&#8221; the Phrase Book with a Tweet or a Facebook share : )</p>
<blockquote><p><font size="5"><strong><a href="https://www.paywithatweet.com/pay/?id=2a403e07ba3ef0b58ce31564facb0e48" rel="nofollow">Click here to download the Travel Phrase Book Chinese/English in PDF format</a></strong></font></p></blockquote>
<p> You&#8217;ll find the most common greetings, the most common food and drinks, numbers, how to ask for help or directions, as well as some useful sentences for taking a taxi and shopping. </p>
<p>You can print the PDF e-book and use it during your trip to China ; )</p>
<p><strong>Have a nice trip and don&#8217;t be afraid to ask a question on the comments below!</strong></p>
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		<title>Interview with John Pasden, the founder of Sinosplice and AllSet Learning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Furio Fu</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I was editing the interview that I did with Julien, the founder of Marco Polo Project, I was fascinated by the problems one needs to solve in order to grow an online project to the point of having enough human and economic resources for investing even more on software and content development and create [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-SCCqL7r/0/M/i-SCCqL7r-M.jpg" class="aligncenter"  alt="John Pasden" width="520" height="346"/></p>
<p>While I was editing the <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/marco-polo-project/" title="What’s Marco Polo Project? Interview with the founder Julien Leyre" target="_blank">interview that I did with Julien</a>, the founder of Marco Polo Project, I was fascinated by the problems one needs to solve in order to grow an online project to the point of having enough human and economic resources for investing even more on software and content development and create a great product.</p>
<p>Hence I asked to myself:</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Who else was able to realize something amazing  on the field of online Chinese learning?</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>And I thought about John Pasden. A couple of days after  I contacted him. John was kind enough to accept to answer to a few questions. This is the result of our conversation!<strong><span id="more-2827"></span></strong></p>
<h4>Introducing John Pasden</h4>
<p>John is the founder of <a href="http://www.sinosplice.com/" target="_blank"><strong>Sinosplice</strong></a>, the first blog dedicated to Chinese learning (it went online on April 2002), <a href="http://www.allsetlearning.com/" target="_blank"><strong>All Set Learning</strong></a>, a Shanghai-based learning consultancy that promises you to answer to the question &#8220;<em>How do I learn Chinese?</em>,&#8221; and <a href="http://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/" target="_blank"><strong>Chinese Grammar Wiki</strong></a>, which I consider the best free resource out there for anybody interested on learning Chinese grammar.</p>
<h4>How to get the kind of job you want</h4>
<p><strong>John, I think I can safely claim that you are one of the few &#8220;authorities&#8221; out there, when it comes to online Chinese learning. All started with <em>Sinosplice</em>, your blog. Today even my grandma understands that a great blog may become the starting point of an even greater career. But ten years ago it wasn&#8217;t like that. My question is: when did you realize that the web could help you on pursuing your professional goals?</strong></p>
<p>Ha, I certainly didn&#8217;t plan it that way!  I was just as lost as anyone when I first arrived in China.  In fact, I think that coming to China in the first place to just teach English and learn some Chinese was all a part of an active effort to avoid thinking about a &#8220;real career&#8221; for a while.  What I didn&#8217;t count on was enjoying learning Chinese so much!</p>
<p>So my blog just grew naturally out of my desire to share my experiences in China with friends and family, and then it slowly morphed into a website more focused on learning Chinese (with occasional digressions to keep myself interested).  </p>
<p>From there it has changed a bit as I&#8217;ve made the transition from hobbyist to a professional in the field.  But really, none of it was planned.  I&#8217;m just glad that I stuck with my blog, even though there were times when I haven&#8217;t been quite as enthusiastic about my blogging.  Sinosplice has become something of an externalized memory bank, as well as a chronicle of a young guy figuring out what he wants to do with his life.</p>
<p>Probably what really hit home the importance of my blog was getting a request for a meeting from <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/chinesepod-review/" title="ChinesePod Review – An alternative way to learn Chinese" target="_blank">ChinesePod</a> in early 2006, based pretty much off the contents of my blog and the reputation I had built with it.  That meeting led to the first major job of my career, and ever since I&#8217;ve taken my blog a bit more seriously than just a casual diversion. </p>
<p><strong>Nowadays I often hear expats complaining that &#8220;China has changed and isn&#8217;t that easy anymore to make your living here.&#8221; I agree that the situation has changed, however I think that China still offers more opportunities than many other countries, both on and offline. What&#8217;s your take on that?</strong></p>
<p>I definitely agree.  But I think you have to try a little harder now, to want it a little more.  Honestly, I feel very lucky, like a lot of what happened to me kind of just fell in my lap.  Nowadays, I think that happens less, but it also takes less courage to come to China, because this place has been demystified a fair amount over the past ten years.</p>
<p>  There are opportunities here, for sure, but you better come prepared to get out there and seek them out (and probably pay more attention to second- and third-tier cities).</p>
<p><em><strong>[Furio: I don't think John was lucky. He slowly built a reputation online and, on the internet, "trust" is the best currency you can get to either build your business or land your dream job.]</strong></em></p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-L2mVf9b/0/M/i-L2mVf9b-M.jpg" class="aligncenter"  alt="AllSet Learning" width="520" height="388"/></p>
<h4>Teaching Chinese in Shanghai</h4>
<p><strong>After your adventure with <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/chinesepod-review/" title="ChinesePod Review – An alternative way to learn Chinese" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ChinesePod</a>, you decided to start your own company. Which are the challenges, as a foreigner, to own and run a company in China?</strong></p>
<p>There are many.  I think you&#8217;ll find that a lot of foreigners don&#8217;t like to publicly talk about these challenges too explicitly, because there are a lot of gray areas in China, and doing business here catapults you straight into that mass of grayness.</p>
<p>My own business is less gray than most, partly because our clients are foreigners.  It helps keep things simpler.  But to give an example, what if the tax bureau told you your company had to pay taxes at the rate of x% for this year, and then at the end of the year told you that no, actually you have to pay more than that, and because you weren&#8217;t paying the higher rate all along, you now also have to pay an additional penalty? </p>
<p>You might protest that &#8220;this is what you told me to do,&#8221; but the tax bureau might still demand that you pay up or risk getting your whole company shut down.  In a situation like this it certainly helps to have a good understanding of Chinese law, but &#8220;rule of law&#8221; does not work the same here as it does in the USA, so my expectations for &#8220;justice&#8221; are a bit divorced from the reality here.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just a simple example, and every company will run into various issues of this sort.  It really takes persistence and determination to succeed here.  Capable Chinese friends and a bit of luck don&#8217;t hurt either!</p>
<p> <strong>You didn&#8217;t open a &#8220;Chinese school.&#8221; What you offer is a personalized service that addresses the different needs of each customers. Can you explain how it works?</strong></p>
<p>Sure.  AllSet Learning is a consultancy that offers a service I designed to be a more perfect replacement for learning Chinese either at a school or from a private tutor.  The core principle is personalization, and the service starts with me (the lead consultant) getting a good understanding of each client&#8217;s current level, goals, learning needs, and learning preferences.  </p>
<p>From there, I design a custom curriculum from the ground up which includes various study materials, multiple teachers, flexible lesson times, and regular coaching and feedback.  The service is designed to be both personalized and responsive, and it evolves to meet the needs of the client as their Chinese improves.</p>
<p><strong>What are the sticky points of the majority of foreigners that decide to ask your help?</strong></p>
<p>Each client is quite different, but some of the common themes are: (1) &#8220;school classes are boring and I don&#8217;t get to talk much,&#8221; (2) &#8220;the materials I&#8217;ve been given before aren&#8217;t what I really need the most,&#8221; and (3) &#8220;my tutor doesn&#8217;t really understand what I need, and doesn&#8217;t push me or correct me enough.&#8221;</p>
<p>Our clients tend to be pretty hardcore.  They often come to us after they&#8217;ve tried other alternatives and are getting fed up.</p>
<h4>Towards startups and the internet</h4>
<p><strong>&#8220;<em>Content is king</em>,&#8221; people say. And they are right. This is the reason for which every company, especially the ones that sell digital products, is rushing for opening a blog. What&#8217;s your take on content marketing and how do you handle it on your company?</strong></p>
<p>Hmmm, that&#8217;s a tricky one, and one that I haven&#8217;t 100% solved yet.  In some ways, Sinosplice is the marketing arm for AllSet Learning.  </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it make more sense to do all that stuff on AllSet Learning directly? Well, yes, except that then I&#8217;d be robbing Sinosplice of fresh content.</p>
<p> Couldn&#8217;t I do both?  Theoretically yes, but I know I&#8217;m very busy, and if I tried to do both, I think I&#8217;d end up with a half-assed blogging effort on both sites.</p>
<p>So, for now, I stick to mainly product announcements, company news, and <a href="http://www.allsetlearning.com/news/category/internship/" target="_blank">intern profiles</a> on the AllSet Learning blog.  When I want to do something more fun, I do it on Sinosplice, and when I&#8217;m looking for more discussion, I do it on Sinosplice.  </p>
<p>Down the road, I&#8217;ll do more content marketing on the AllSet Learning site, but not quite yet.  We&#8217;re in this for the long haul, and it will all come in due time.</p>
<p><strong>Looking at your blog, Sinosplice, it seems that you aren&#8217;t trying to &#8220;exploit&#8221; it to get more leads and customers. Have you even been afraid to &#8220;destroy&#8221; your blog by transforming it on something too commercial?</strong></p>
<p>Thank you for noticing!  I have actively refrained from flogging AllSet Learning services or products too much on Sinosplice, precisely because I don&#8217;t want to destroy what I&#8217;ve built up for so long.  I&#8217;m going to do it occasionally, of course, because I really believe in what we&#8217;re building at AllSet Learning, but there should be a balance.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-vRJPr32/0/M/i-vRJPr32-M.jpg" class="aligncenter"  alt="Sinosplice" width="520" height="388"/></p>
<h4>Chinese Grammar Wiki</h4>
<p><strong>When I stumbled upon the <em>Chinese Grammar Wiki</em> I went straight ahead to check <a href="http://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Uses_of_%22le%22" target="_blank">the page that explains how to use the particle &#8220;了&#8221;</a>, which I think it&#8217;s a good way to judge a Chinese grammar. I was impressed by the quality and the number of the examples. How this project was born? Which were the biggest challenges on realizing it?</strong></p>
<p>Glad you like it!  The project was born out of necessity, really.</p>
<p>Have you ever wondered why there aren&#8217;t more comprehensive resources online for Chinese grammar?  It&#8217;s because they&#8217;re not profitable&#8230; at least not for a long, long time.  It doesn&#8217;t make sense for most companies to try to develop a huge all-encompassing guide to Chinese grammar when just a basic outline will suffice to keep the company going.  Trying to thoroughly cover all aspects of a language&#8217;s grammar is a massive undertaking, and will literally take years to do it right.</p>
<p>So why are we doing it?  Because the services we offer our clients revolve around personalization.  We don&#8217;t require our clients to use one particular textbook or learning resource.  This makes it difficult to track a client&#8217;s progress and mastery of various Chinese grammar patterns over time.  It&#8217;s easy to do if you just follow one textbook, but as soon as you start mixing up the resources, it gets confusing. </p>
<p>So we started out with our own standard lists of grammar patterns that clients needed to master at different stages of language acquisition, but we had to continually update the lists, and then we had versioning issues.  It was clear that keeping everything in one central location online would be the way to go.  And that&#8217;s how the Chinese Grammar Wiki was born.</p>
<p><em><strong>[Furio: This incremental process remembers me of a quote (I think Bill Gates said it) that I always repeat to myself when I feel overwhelmed by my projects: "Most people overestimate what they can do in one year and underestimate what they can do in ten years." The lesson is that if you only focus on the short term you will lose momentum and never accomplish anything worth your time, while if you focus on the long haul and work day by day (or "<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385480016/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0385480016&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;tag=saporedicina-20" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bird by Bird</a>," to quote Anne Lamott) you can reach amazing results.]</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Why did you choose to do not translate the examples in English?</strong></p>
<p>That was largely a resources issue.  We went broad first, and then filled in more detail later.  Also, if a page is still being actively edited (including the Chinese sample sentences), it&#8217;s really a pain to try to keep the translations in sync as the editing continues (especially when it&#8217;s different people doing the two), so it just made more sense to hold off on the translations for a time while the dust settled.</p>
<p>Actually, over the past few months translations have already been added for all <a href="http://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/A1_grammar_points" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Beginner (A1)</a> and <a href="http://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/A2_grammar_points" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Elementary (A2)</a> grammar points.</p>
<p><strong>You called the grammar a &#8220;wiki&#8221; and released it under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/" target="_blank">Creative Commons License</a> that allows people to copy, distribute and adapt the work. My guess is that, when you made this choice, you were hoping to get an external collaboration on the content creation (as for <em>Wikipedia</em>). Is this right? If yes, how is it going?</strong></p>
<p>Yes, I would love to have more help from editors that share our vision, but it&#8217;s not something that just anyone can contribute to.  I&#8217;ve had some offers to help with the editing, as well as emails from users pointing out typos or asking questions.  The most active editors, though, besides the full-time staff at AllSet Learning, are the <a href="http://www.allsetlearning.com/news/category/internship/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">interns</a>.  </p>
<p>Our interns have been a huge help building out our company&#8217;s vision from the wiki.  And since every wiki article (complete with sources) can be viewed as a mini research paper, it&#8217;s work really very well-suited to an intern serious about improving his Chinese.  We have a nice library of Chinese grammar books here, as well as in-house Chinese teachers always ready to help.</p>
<p><strong>Why did you take the time to realize this resource? Is it just for fun and giving  value to people? At the opposite side, is it just content marketing in order to reach more people and get more customers? A combination of both? Something else?</strong></p>
<p>I mentioned before that the Chinese Grammar Wiki grew out of a necessity for our clients, but it definitely goes beyond that.  I&#8217;ve felt for some time that there <strong>should be</strong> a more complete resource for Chinese grammar out there, and there comes a point when you get tired of waiting for someone else to build it!</p>
<p><em><strong>[Furio: I'm laughing while I'm reading this for the first time because Julien, the founder of the <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/marco-polo-project/" title="What’s Marco Polo Project? Interview with the founder Julien Leyre" target="_blank">Marco Polo Project</a>, answered to me exactly the same: "I thought something like this should exist." Men, motivation moves the world!]</strong></em></p>
<p>So yes, I want my company to provide value to all the struggling learners out there.  Some students (like me) naturally gravitate toward grammar, and I want to provide something that they can sink their teeth into.  I also want to change the perception out there that &#8220;Chinese has no grammar,&#8221; because Chinese grammar has a very cool inner logic to it.</p>
<p>I certainly hope that the Chinese Grammar Wiki can serve something of a content marketing role, but if were simply a matter of &#8220;return on investment&#8221; I never would have started it.</p>
<p><em><strong>[Furio: Yup, Chinese grammar isn't really the most sexy topic to market haha]</strong></em></p>
<h4>And then what?</h4>
<p><strong>You are married with a Chinese girl, have a daughter and opened a company in China. Do you ever think about going back to U.S.?</strong></p>
<p>Of course.  I&#8217;d be lying if I said I never think about it.  I think about it not because I&#8217;m tired of China and want to go back, but rather because I suspect there may come a time when it just really doesn&#8217;t make any kind of sense for me (and my family) to stay.  Ecological, economic, or political disasters could definitely befall China.  You can&#8217;t be a responsible parent if you haven&#8217;t at least thought about a plan B.</p>
<p>That said, I don&#8217;t have plans to leave China anytime soon.  I&#8217;m still having a great time here, loving the experience of building my own company, and sincerely hope that I can be here for quite a while.</p>
<p><strong>John, thank you for your time!</strong></p>
<p>It was my pleasure!  Thanks for asking such great questions.</p>
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		<title>The challenge of the Chinese dumplings</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 09:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>marta</dc:creator>
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<p>One of the principal features of the Chinese school is competition: no matters which grade you can get, the important thing is how is your grade compared to the others in your class; never mind how fast you can run, the important is to be the fastest in the school; never mind whether your class is clean or dirty, the important is that it’s considered cleaner than the others. Following this flow, the last idea of my school has been a cooking competition.<strong><span id="more-2911"></span></strong></p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-C3KFqQ4/0/L/i-C3KFqQ4-L.jpg" class="aligncenter"  alt="chinese dumplings" width="920" height="613"/><font size="3"><em>The competition&#8230;</em></p>
<p>So the big classroom of the international department for an afternoon became a big kitchen filled with flour fluttering everywhere. The mission of the six drawn people of each class was to prepare the 饺子 (jiaozi, Chinese dumplings) and a composition of fruit in forty minutes. The “result” will then be evaluated by the commission composed by students and teachers of the classes that weren’t competing.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-h2VGwFp/0/L/i-h2VGwFp-L.jpg" class="aligncenter"  alt="jiao zi" width="920" height="613"/><font size="3"><em>The hands on the flour&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Every class had spent some time in the days before the great day in training and so every student was ready to compete. Everything was clear about how to cope in the fastest way and how to coordinate with the mates to have the best result despite the few space and time.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-PKzwpct/0/L/i-PKzwpct-L.jpg" class="aligncenter"  alt="dumplings competitions" width="920" height="613"/><font size="3"><em>The hosts</em></p>
<p>As always the performance began with the presentation that is a typical feature of every event in which I took part since I’m here: two hosts, possibly of different sex, that recite a part trying to look formal.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-z6bT5fw/0/L/i-z6bT5fw-L.jpg" class="aligncenter"  alt="chinese dumplings" width="920" height="613"/><font size="3"><em>A dish of colorful jiaozi</em></p>
<p>After the formalities, the competition finally started, the chefs began to knead the flour and cut the fruits. Everyone was doing his duty, soon an assembly line developed and the first dumplings dove in the boiling water. On the other extremity of the table inanimate piece of colorful fruit were matched creating unexpected compositions, carefully studied during the preparation trainings the day before the competition.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-PZHsLf7/0/L/i-PZHsLf7-L.jpg" class="aligncenter"  alt="Chinese fruit" width="920" height="613"/><font size="3"><em>Fruit composition</em></p>
<p>While their classmates were frantically working around their table the others, with no duty, were observing, giving advices and motivating their teams. There were people beating on judges’ decision, while others were contemplating which was the secret to satisfy the teachers’ palate.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-Z6jhcZ9/0/L/i-Z6jhcZ9-L.jpg" class="aligncenter"  alt="dumplings challenge" width="920" height="613"/><font size="3"><em>Another fruit composition</em></p>
<p>Among all this confusion, all this voices and odors filling every space of the room, there was 李翀然 (Lichōngrán) that incessantly was getting around, taking pictures of everything (the pictures on this post have been taken by him).</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-S6pfLGR/0/L/i-S6pfLGR-L.jpg" class="aligncenter"  alt="chinese jiao zi" width="920" height="613"/><font size="3"><em>The judges</em></p>
<p>After the forty minutes provided for the competition were expired every team had been able to finish his “masterpiece” and serve it. Everyone was proud of his work, you could read it on their face. Maybe because this was very likely the first time in which they were preparing a meal alone, without the always present Chinese mum. </p>
<p>The judges finally determined the winners, few critics for something, few compliments for something else: everything was clear. Despite this we’ve been all waiting for the official prize giving, so every participant went away holding his precious certificate, always good for the school curriculum.  there’s always a second purpose in Chinese school&#8230;</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-8CB8sPc/0/L/i-8CB8sPc-L.jpg" class="aligncenter"  alt="dumplings" width="920" height="613"/><font size="3"><em>The winners!</em></p>
<p>The competition ended in a last minute prolongation: in order to not waste the large amount of jiaozi produced by each team, every class picked a guy that took part in the speed race. The four selected guys gobbled their portion of dumplings in less than two minutes making all the audience laugh.</p>
<p>This time, the great Chinese competition that accompany Chinese guys for all their scholastic career has been transformed in a party that has made everyone happy… even the losers went home replete.</p>
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		<title>How to rent a room or an apartment in Shanghai</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 09:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Furio Fu</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a complete guide to rent an apartment, or just a room in a shared flat, in Shanghai. You will learn: The best websites to rent an apartment in Shanghai (both in English and Chinese language). The pros and cons of looking for a room or an apartment on the internet. A nice trick [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>This is a complete guide to rent an apartment, or just a room in a shared flat, in Shanghai. You will learn:</strong></p>
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<li>The best websites to rent an apartment in Shanghai (both in English and Chinese language).</li>
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<li>The pros and cons of looking for a room or an apartment on the internet.</li>
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<li>A nice trick to get a better price if you are looking for a room in a shared flat.</li>
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<li>The pros and cons of using an agency, how to spot an honest agency.</li>
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<li>What are the expenses beside the monthly rent (security deposit, agency fee, electricity and so on).</li>
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<li>Why you must ask for a regular contract.</li>
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<li>The most common scams while renting an apartment in China.</li>
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<li>Which is the best zone to live in Shanghai if you want to have a social life without spending hours in a cab.</li>
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<h4>Looking for an apartment on the internet</h4>
<p><strong>If you are just landed to China and you don&#8217;t know anybody, the fastest way to find an apartment is probably to check the websites in English language. I recommend <a href="http://www.smartshanghai.com/housing/" target="_blank">Smart Shanghai</a>, <a href="http://shanghai.craigslist.com.cn/hhh/" target="_blank">Craigs List</a>, <a href="http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/shanghai/classifieds/housing/" target="_blank">City Weekend</a> and  <a href="http://www.intershanghai.com/" target="_blank">Inter Shanghai</a>.</strong></p>
<p>The pros are that you won&#8217;t have to hunt for an agency on the street and most luckily you will deal with a landlord (or an agent) that can speak decent English. </p>
<p>Also, if you are in a tight budget (less than 3,000 RMB per month, that is about 500 USD) and you don&#8217;t want to live too far away from downtown, getting a room in a shared flat will be your only choice.</p>
<p>In this case, since very few agencies deal with &#8220;rooms&#8221; (they usually want you to rent the whole apartment), internet is your best bet.</p>
<p>The cons are that the apartments and rooms are usually more expensive (this is logical because the landlord knows that he&#8217;s addressing foreigners, often newcomers that can&#8217;t speak Chinese) and they get rented fast.</p>
<p>Especially for rooms in shared apartment, you either visit and take the room straight away or someone else will. It&#8217;s frustrating.   </p>
<p><strong>However, if you can speak Chinese or have a Chinese friend that is willing to help you, you can also check on the websites in Mandarin. Here the most popular: <a href="http://zu.sh.soufun.com/" target="_blank">Sou Fun</a>, <a href="http://shanghai.baixing.com/" target="_blank">Bai Xing</a> (that is Chinese&#8217;s Craigs List) and <a href="http://shanghai.haozu.com/listing/%20/" target="_blank">Hao Zu</a>. </strong></p>
<p>Also on the Chinese websites the best rooms and flats get rented fast. However you will have much more choice and the prices will be way cheaper.</p>
<h4>Another option for getting a room in a shared apartment</h4>
<p><strong>There is a Couchsurfing&#8217;s group called <a href="http://www.couchsurfing.org/group.html?gid=21553" target="_blank">Shanghai Living / Apartments / Real Estate</a>, which is quite active. You could sign up and see if there is anybody looking for a room. In this case you could propose to him/her to join you and look together for a flat. If there isn&#8217;t any people that already posted a message, you can still post a message yourself saying &#8220;Hey, I&#8217;m looking for a roommate. Anybody interested?&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><strong>Why? The reason is that, if you team up with one or two other guys that are also looking for a room, you guys can rent a whole apartment.</strong></p>
<p>This has three advantages:</p>
<ul>
<li>You will have much more choice because Shanghai is full of empty apartments (while empty room in a shared apartment are rare).</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>You can address an agency (they usually only deals with empty apartments) so that you don&#8217;t have to rely solely on the internet.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>You will get a better deal as renting a whole apartment is usually cheaper (if you find a couple of roommates willing to share the rent with you).</li>
</ul>
<p>This is how I found my current room. After two weeks of worthless calls and emails to people that were renting rooms in shared apartments, I teamed up with two other guys (yup, I met then on Couchsurfing). </p>
<p>We walked to an agency in Jing An, asked for an apartment in downtown with three bedrooms and a rent under 7,000 RMB (for the whole apartment) and got it in two days. </p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-XjqLWGw/0/M/i-XjqLWGw-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Shanghai" alt="apartment in Shanghai" width="520" height="347"/></p>
<h4>Looking for an apartment through an agency</h4>
<p><strong>Even  if some agents can&#8217;t speak English, many of them will. Remember that you are in Shanghai, not in a small Tibetan village! </strong></p>
<p>In this case your best bet is to choose the zone where you want to live (Jing An for instance) and start to walk around till you find an agency. There are plenty of agencies so you shouldn&#8217;t have problems to find a couple of them.</p>
<p>Then ask for an apartment with the characteristics you want (remember to specify your budget). </p>
<p>The agent will probably start by showing you an apartment that doesn&#8217;t respect your budget. The reason is that they work on commission. So if he can convince you to get an apartment a bit more expensive, he will earn a slightly higher commission.</p>
<p><strong>Don&#8217;t freak out. Remember that you are in China : )</strong> </p>
<p>Be polite but inflexible. Tell him again what&#8217;s your budget and that you won&#8217;t accept anything more expensive than that. However remember to be realistic: find a decent room in downtown for less than 2,000 RMB/month is impossible.</p>
<p><strong>Don&#8217;t forget to bargain the price. This is widely accepted in China and usually you will get some small discount (within 1% and 10% according to your bargain skills).</strong></p>
<p>Another tactic pretty common used by the agents is to start by bringing you to a very shitty apartment. They know you won&#8217;t take it. They are just trying to scare you so that, after you see two or three flats that look disgusting, you will be happy to rent an apartment that is just so so. Don&#8217;t fall for it.</p>
<p>If an agent brings you to a very bad apartment, tell him that you want something better. If the second flat is like the first, just tell him to fuck off and walk away. </p>
<p>There are plenty of honest agencies so there is no reason to deal with someone that is trying to rip you off.</p>
<h4>What are the expenses beside the monthly rent (security deposit, agency fee, electricity and so on)</h4>
<p><strong>In Shanghai you should pay the rent every month or, at worst, every two months. Also, you will have to pay a security deposit. Be aware that the landlord may ask you for a two or three months rent deposit. However you shouldn&#8217;t accept to pay an amount of money higher than one month of rent as a deposit.</strong></p>
<p> Personally I would walk away if someone insists to want more than one month deposit as this is the standard.</p>
<p>When you find an apartment that you like, you must &#8220;block&#8221; it. This means that you have to anticipate a small amount of money. Our landlord asked 2,000 RMB to us but we only gave him 900 RMB (our rent is 7,000 per month). In exchange,  he gave us a signed receipt. </p>
<p>The day after we came back to the apartment and, after we checked that everything was working (air cons, hot water and so on), we signed the contract and paid two months rent + one month deposit (all in cash, welcome to China!).</p>
<p>We also paid a commission to the agent, which corresponded to 35% of one month rent. If the agent ask for more just tell him that 35% is the standard fee (I suggest you to ask what the agency&#8217;s fee is before you start to check apartments).</p>
<p><strong>Usually you will have to pay the electricity, water, gas and internet bills. The total amount shouldn&#8217;t be more than 400 RMB/month. So if you are three people it&#8217;s about 130 RMB/month each.</strong></p>
<p>If you live in a big building there will be some maintenance fees (which may vary but usually it&#8217;s around 100-200 RMB/month). Our landlord pays it  by himself, but some landlord will ask you to also pay this fee. Again, it&#8217;s up to you to bargain.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-nxVGs8B/0/M/i-nxVGs8B-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Shanghai" alt=rent a room in Shanghai" width="520" height="313"/></p>
<h4>Why you need a regular contract</h4>
<p>There are two reasons.</p>
<p><strong>First at all, as soon as you arrive in China you are required to go to police station and register your address. </strong></p>
<p>If you are a tourist or you are living in a students&#8217; dorm you don&#8217;t need to worry about it because the hotel&#8217;s or the dorm&#8217;s manager will register you at the nearest police station.</p>
<p>However, if you rent an apartment, you need to do it yourself. It only takes five minutes and you don&#8217;t need to speak any Chinese. However you need to bring the original copy of your house contract and your passport (you also need to bring a copy of the contract, of the passport&#8217;s first page and of passport&#8217;s VISA page).</p>
<p>In the past years this wasn&#8217;t that important. However since this year the police is putting a lot of attention on address registration. If you don&#8217;t register your address, they will call the number that you gave at the customs the day you entered China. If you don&#8217;t answer, they will just start to look for you.</p>
<p>Again, it just takes five minutes. But you do need a regular house contract. Also, you should ask to your agent or landlord where is the police station because you only can register at the station that is responsible for your zone.</p>
<p><strong>The second reason for which you need a contract is that you can&#8217;t fully trust your landlord. What are you going to do if, after three months that you rented the apartment, your landlord decides to rise the price of your flat?</strong></p>
<p>If you have a regular contract, you just tell him to shut up or you will go to talk with the police. But if you don&#8217;t have any contract you don&#8217;t own any right to stay there.  </p>
<p>Also, how are you going to get back your security deposit? This isn&#8217;t your country. So just play it safe and ask for a contract.  </p>
<h4>How should the contract looks like?</h4>
<ul>
<li><strong>First at all, the house contract should be in English or both in English and Chinese languages. Don&#8217;t sign any contract in Chinese if you don&#8217;t speak the language. </strong></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>The <strong>name of the landlord</strong> should be in the contract. I would also ask to see his ID card and get a copy of it.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>The <strong>address of the apartment</strong> should be on the contract.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>The <strong>monthly rent fee, the deposit fee and the rent scheduling</strong> (every month or every two months) should be on the contract. </li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>The <strong>duration of the contract</strong> should be specified. And by the way, the duration is also something that you can bargain. </li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>The contract should states that <strong>the landlord is responsible to fix major damages</strong> (like a broken fridge or air con).</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>The contract should state that, in the case the landlord asks you to live before the end of the contract, he should pay a penalty (at least one month rent).</li>
</ul>
<h4>The most common scams while renting an apartment in China</h4>
<ul>
<li>Read your contract and check that everything I mentioned is written there. If it&#8217;s not written, it doesn&#8217;t exist. And you have no power to enforce the landlord to respect his word.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Get a receipt for anything you pay. I know it seems obvious, but there are still people that forget to ask for it. </li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Don&#8217;t accept to pay more than a month rent deposit. Anything higher than that  sounds like a scam to me.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>If you don&#8217;t want to use an agency, avoid to sign a contract with a landlord that doesn&#8217;t live in the apartment (or next door). Also, avoid intermediaries! The problem is that they could just run away with your money. And this doesn&#8217;t only happen with Chinese intermediaries. </p>
<p>In late 2011 eighty people were <a href=" http://shanghaiist.com/2012/01/06/canadian_scammer_sublets_30_apartme.php" target="_blank">scammed by Ryan Fedoruk</a>, a Canadian guy that sublet thirty apartments in Shanghai and then flew away with the money (300,000 RMB).</p>
<p>So, either you go with an agency (and check if the agency is legit by visiting its office) or trust the landlord (because he will live with you or next door).</li>
</ul>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-TxxDQLr/0/M/i-TxxDQLr-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Shanghai" alt="affittare casa a Shanghai" width="520" height="236" /></p>
<h4>Where to live in Shanghai if you care about your social life</h4>
<p>Many people will choose their location in order to be close to their office or university. However other people prefer to live in downtown so they can have a better social life (remember that Shanghai is huge). I&#8217;m one of the latter.</p>
<p>First at all, you should look for an apartment close to a subway station. Shanghai subway system is massive (the longest in the world) so you can go pretty much everywhere with it (<a href="http://www.exploreshanghai.com/metro/#" target="_blank">here you find an interactive map</a>). Also, it&#8217;s quite cheap. </p>
<p>In particular, I advice you to live along the subway line 2 (the green one), which crosses all Shanghai from East to West. This will usually allows you to reach any part of the city with only one of two changes (and often without changes at all).</p>
<p>The best places to live are, in my opinion, between Nanjing East Station and Zhong Shan Park Station. Most of bars &#038; clubs are located on the old French concession, that is on the South of these stations. But it&#8217;s not only about nightlife, I like this zone because it remembers me of an European town, with a lot of tiny alleys, small restaurants and old cafés. </p>
<p>Be aware that the apartments inside the French concession are either bloody expensive or pretty old. If you still want to live downtown and get a modern flat but, at the same time, you have a small budget, then I suggest you to look at the North side of the line 2. </p>
<p>In general Zhong Shang Park and Jangsu Road are cheaper than Jing An, Nanjing West or People Square (check the map of the line 2 if you feel a bit lost).</p>
<p>Well, I think that by now you know everything you need! Good luck and let me know if this guide was useful ; ) </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Furio Fu</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The purpose of this guide is to show you how and where to book an hotel (or an hostel) in China, especially if you are traveling on a budget. If you can afford it then just book at the Hilton or at the Marriot and you will find everything you need : P First at [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>The purpose of this guide is to show you how and where to book an hotel (or an hostel) in China, especially if you are traveling on a budget.</strong></p>
<p>If you can afford it then just book at the Hilton or at the Marriot and you will find everything you need : P</p>
<p><strong>First at all, keep in mind that Chinese hotels must register all the customers at the police station. Thus you will always need to show your passport when you arrive at the hotel.</strong></p>
<h4>Which type of hotel should you choose?</h4>
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<p><strong>If you don&#8217;t speak Chinese I suggest you to book your room in an international hostel.</strong></p>
<p>Here you will find at least one person at the desk that speaks decent English. The situation on cheap Chinese hotels is different as often nobody speaks English.</p>
<p>Also, if you are traveling alone and want to have a chance to connect with other travelers, international hostels are your best bet (this holds true everywhere).</p>
<p>Another important point to keep in mind is that, if you don&#8217;t speak Chinese, organizing an outdoor trip by yourself (for instance visiting the <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/great-wall-of-china/" target="_blank">Great Wall</a> if you are in Beijing or  the <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/the-stone-forest-and-the-legend-of-ashima/" target="_blank">Stone Forest</a> if you are in Kunming) may be difficult. In another hand, international hostels will usually offer cheap day-trip (or even longer tours) to any relevant touristic destination.</p>
<h4>Internet connection</h4>
<p>Cheap Chinese hotels usually don&#8217;t provide an Internet connection. Even if international hostels are more luckily to offer it, you will have to face two problems:</p>
<ul>
<li>Many websites such as Facebook, Twitter and Youtube are blocked in China. The only way to access them is to use a paying VPN service.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Even if international hostels almost always offer an internet connection, it may be so slow that it&#8217;s basically useless.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>If internet is important to you, I recommend you to read the reviews on <a href="http://www.agoda.com/asia/china.html?cid=1598521" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Agoda</a>, <a href="http://hostelworld.com" rel="nofollow"target="_blank">HostelWorld</a> or <a href="http://www.tripadvisor.com/" rel="nofollow"target="_blank">TripAdvisor</a> before to book the hotel. In particular, you should check if the internet connection is working well and if the hotel offers a free access to a VPN (some international hostels do so in order to make Facebook&#8217;s addicts happy).</strong></p>
<h4>Which online portal should you use to book your hotel?</h4>
<p><strong>For years I&#8217;ve been booking my hostels&#8217; rooms on HostelWorld.com. Then I discovered by chance that Agoda offers more or less the same hotels&#8217; choice, with the difference that is cheaper (in some case much cheaper). So now I book all my rooms on <a href="http://www.agoda.com/asia/china.html?cid=1598521" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Agoda.com</a>.</strong></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t believe me? OK, I will show you an example. The 22 April I checked the prices for a twin private ensuite room, that is a room for two people with private bathroom, at <em>Beijing Drum Tower Youth Hostel</em> (which is located in Beijing&#8217;s downtown).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve checked how much would cost me to get the same room for seven nights, from Monday 6 May to Monday 13 May, on HostelWorld and Agoda.</p>
<p><strong>The final price was 283.36 USD on <a href="http://hostelworld.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">HostelWorld</a> and 268.14 USD on <a href="http://www.agoda.com/asia/china.html?cid=1598521" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Agoda</a> (see pics below).</strong></p>
<p><img class="aligncenter" alt="hotel in china" src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-mNKBsWr/0/M/i-mNKBsWr-M.jpg" width="520" height="234" /></p>
<p><img class="aligncenter" alt="hotel in beijing" src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-rTfs2dj/0/M/i-rTfs2dj-M.jpg" width="520" height="276" /></p>
<p>The difference of price was quite small (15 USD). I also did a similar research for the <em>Blue Mountain Bund Youth Hostel</em> located in Shanghai. </p>
<p><strong>In this case the final prices was 295.06 USD on <a href="http://hostelworld.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">HostelWorld</a> and 263.35 USD on <a href="http://www.agoda.com/asia/china.html?cid=1598521" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Agoda</a>. That is, if you book on Agoda&#8217;s website you save 32 USD.</strong></p>
<p>Last month I did a similar test for the <em>Sawasdee Khaosan Inn Hotel</em> (I stayed there for a week while I was in Bangkok) and <strong>it resulted that the same single room from 25 to 31 March would cost me 233.35 USD on Hostelworld e 145.39 Euro on Agoda</strong>. The prices for a double room were almost the same. </p>
<p><strong>This means that in this case Hostelworld was 50% more expensive than <a href="http://www.agoda.com/asia/china.html?cid=1598521" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Agoda</a>!</strong></p>
<p>However if you choose to stay in a dorm the prices are quite similar. I tend to avoid dorms because if I travel with a girl I prefer to have some privacy and if I travel alone I usually work and I need a room where I can actually sleep at night.</p>
<h4>Where to book your hotel?</h4>
<p>Chinese cities may be huge. I&#8217;m not only talking about Beijing or Shanghai. Also &#8220;smaller&#8221; cities as Hangzhou, Tianjin, Suzhou, Kunming, Chengdu or Guangzhou have between five and ten millions people.</p>
<p>Even if taxis are quite affordable in China, I suggest you to find an hotel in downtown or at least close to a subway station (almost all major Chinese cities have an efficient subway system).</p>
<h4>Are Chinese hotels safe or not?</h4>
<p>China is by far the safest country I&#8217;ve visited (and I did travel a lot). So I won&#8217;t recommend you any special precautions (if you were going to Thailand I would tell you to buy a robust padlock as over there many hostels allow you to lock your door when you live the room).</p>
<p>Having say that, when I stay in a hostel I tend to always bring my expensive photo camera and lens with me.</p>
<p><strong>Well, have a nice trip and let me know if you need any other information!</strong></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Furio Fu</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you dream to set up your online shop or your import business? In both cases the best way is to begin your research on the internet. But how to get started? Well I’m not an expert. This is why I asked some advices to my friend Fredrik, who’s been helping Western companies to import [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you dream to set up your online shop or your import business? In both cases the best way is to begin your research on the internet. </p>
<p><strong>But how to get started?</strong></p>
<p>Well I’m not an expert. This is why I asked some advices to my friend Fredrik, who’s been helping Western companies to import from China since 2008. Here&#8217;s what he has to say!</p>
<p><a href="http://alibaba.com" target="_blank"><strong>Alibaba.com</strong></a> and <a href="http://aliexpress.com" target="_blank"><strong>Aliexpress.com</strong></a> are well known among importing business worldwide. Both websites are owned by Alibaba Group, based in Hangzhou, China. The difference between the two websites can be hard to spot at a first glance, but its two very different business models with equally different strengths and weaknesses. This article will help you to choose which one you should use.<strong><span id="more-2847"></span></strong></p>
<h3>Alibaba.com key facts</h3>
<ul>
<li>A B2B (business to business) portal that connects manufacturers &#8211; mainly Chinese &#8211; with overseas buyers.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>No built-in shopping cart system, the order terms are negotiated and confirmed using email or the built-in chat.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>No transaction fees or commissions paid to Alibaba.com, the main revenue stream is the “Gold Supplier” membership fee paid by the suppliers. Alibaba verifies that each Gold Supplier is a legally registered company. However, it’s not a guarantee for quality products.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Focused on “make to order”. In practice this means that suppliers on Alibaba don&#8217;t advertise “ready made” products but rather manufacture products based on the specifications provided by the buyer. The suppliers are basically listing reference products. </li>
</ul>
<h3>Aliexpress key facts</h3>
<ul>
<li>A transaction based B2B and B2C (business to customer) platform that connects trading companies &#8211; mainly Chinese &#8211; with overseas buyers.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Focused on small volume orders of “ready made” products instead of “make to order” and thus more suitable for the medium and small importers who can’t afford to buy a container of goods.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Alibaba and Aliexpress comparison</h3>
<p><br/></p>
<h4>Minimum Order Quantity (MOQ)</h4>
<p>A supplier needs to manufacture a certain number of pieces before he can make a worthwhile profit. The raw material and component suppliers also impose MOQ requirements on your supplier, since they also need to provide a certain amount of products to your supplier in order to reach profitability. This translates into the MOQ. If you can’t reach it, the supplier won’t do business with you. </p>
<p><strong>Alibaba:</strong> The suppliers tends to have rather high MOQ requirements. The reason is that they don’t keep products in stock and need to purchase a minimum quantity from their sub suppliers. They also need to manufacture a minimum quantity of products in order to make a profit. Many consumer products, such as wristwatches, can easily have MOQ requirements on 300 pieces and above. An MOQ requirement is usually valid for a specific product, so if you want to order two different products you need order 2 x MOQ requirement. This is often too much for small businesses that don&#8217;t have fairly large sales volumes. </p>
<p><strong>Aliexpress:</strong> Most suppliers here can offer an MOQ from 10 pcs and above. The simple reason is that Aliexpress suppliers can split up a larger quantity between many small buyers. This eliminates the issue of reaching a high MOQ requirement, but will of course affect the prices.</p>
<h4>Pricing</h4>
<p>The price paid for a product are based on two main factors: its quality standard and the quantity you buy. The approach an importer should have to pricing is very different when comparing the two portals Alibaba and Aliexpress.</p>
<p><strong>Alibaba:</strong> There are no fixed prices but everything is quoted from scratch to a various degree. You send your product specifications (colors, dimensions, materials, certification requirements etc.), the delivery terms and the quantity you want to buy; then the supplier gets back to you with a price. A wristwatch can anything from US$2 to US$200, the pricing is a question of which quality standard you require. </p>
<p>Assuming that you can reach the suppliers MOQ requirements you will also enjoy lower prices compared to if you are ordering a 10 to 20 pcs at a time from Aliexpress suppliers.</p>
<p><strong>Aliexpress:</strong> The supplier lists a product, and they list prices for different quantities. It&#8217;s usually not up for negotiation. Prices on Aliexpress are higher compared to if you would order a larger quantity from an Alibaba supplier. </p>
<h4>Custom designed and branded products</h4>
<p>Creating a brand instead of just importing random no name products can increase the customers perceived value of the product, even if it&#8217;s not a well-known brand name. A brand can consist of a logo, certain colors or design. Some importers also want to develop a completely new product or modify an existing design. </p>
<p><strong>Alibaba:</strong> Most suppliers can offer custom design and logo print. However, developing a new product from scratch is not easy and you’ll need to have very well-drafted product specifications and graphical material at hand. This includes, but is not limited to, material specifications, components, Pantone colours, product packaging design, product body artwork and logo design. </p>
<p><strong>Aliexpress:</strong> Products on Aliexpress are already manufactured and waiting for a buyer. It&#8217;s not possible to send back a few pieces to the factory to modify their design or print a logo. Thus, Aliexpress is not the right choice if you’re looking for custom designed or branded products.</p>
<h4>Product certification</h4>
<p>Certain products such as electronics, toys, plastics and food require product standard compliance. Different countries (USA, Canada) and markets (EU) have different product standard certificates. Many importers assume that exporting suppliers are compliant by default, but this is completely wrong. Importing products that are non-compliant is illegal can result in having your shipment confiscated, so you better take this part seriously. Below is a list of different product certificates:</p>
<ul>
<li>Electronics: CE, RoHS, EMC Class A and B</li>
<li>Toys: EN71</li>
<li>Plastics: REACH</li>
<li>Fire retardant: FR B1 and B2</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Alibaba:</strong> Since suppliers “Make to Order” you have the option to ask your supplier to make the products compliant with a certain certificate whereafter the supplier use the materials and components that are required for compliance. Remember that not all Alibaba suppliers have the experience or knowledge required to manufacture compliant products, but there are plenty that do. The conclusion is that if you are importing products to the EU or USA, that at the same time require compliance with a standard such as CE, then Alibaba is your next destination.</p>
<p><strong>Aliexpress:</strong> The products listed on Aliexpress are already produced and it&#8217;s very unlikely that the supplier has made products that are compliant with western product standards. Compliant products are more expensive and it would make the supplier less competitive to their Russian, African and Latin Americans buyers. This group tends to be larger than American and European buyers so it does make sense for the average AliExpress trader to not bother with American and European certification standards. Plenty of consumer products are not required compliance with a certification standard in the US or EU, so simply avoid those that do from Aliexpress. </p>
<h4>Quality Issues and Risks</h4>
<p>It’s risky to import products from China. A whole industry focused on quality assurance and fraud prevention has grown in China, unlike anywhere else. There‘s anything from small details that don&#8217;t follow through in the final product to outright frauds. This costs business money, some issues can be overlooked while other issues force businesses into bankruptcy.</p>
<p><strong>Alibaba:</strong> Far from all suppliers are qualified to take your order, especially if you want to import custom made products or have a certification compliance as a requirement. You’ll need to invest many hours into questioning your suppliers regarding their manufacturing capabilities. The risk of quality issues will increase if you don&#8217;t know which product specifications define the quality of the product. In other words, the more you know about your product, the more quality issues can be avoided.</p>
<p><strong>Aliexpress:</strong> It&#8217;s very straightforward to order from Aliexpress, and you get what the supplier got on offer. Nothing less, nothing more. Keep in mind that “quality” is subjective, and you should order a sample before placing a larger order. What’s considered to be good quality in Ecuador or Russia (no offence!) might not be considered to be good quality in the United States or Italy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not unheard of that Aliexpress suppliers have cheated their buyers by sending the wrong or defective products. Unlike Alibaba, Aliexpress provides buyer feedback directly on the site. Review your suppliers negative buyer feedback to get a rough overview of what kind of mistakes this supplier has been making.</p>
<h4>Lead Times</h4>
<p>Time is money and that becomes especially clear when importing from China. Below we list the different lead times you need to take into consideration when buying from a Chinese supplier:</p>
<ul>
<ol>1. Order preparations</ol>
<ol>2. Production time</ol>
<ol>3. Shipping time</ol>
</ul>
<p><strong>Alibaba:</strong> It can take months before you’ve identified the right supplier, confirmed samples, negotiated prices and have a signed and stamped Sales Agreement in your mailbox. On the other hand you can just ask a random supplier to send a digital invoice and transfer your money right away, but that&#8217;s obviously risky. The order preparations can take anything from 15 days to 6 months. The larger the order, and the more complex the product is, the longer it takes. </p>
<p>Production time is easier to predict since its usually around 30 days in total, counting from the day the supplier receives the payment. </p>
<p>How long it will take to ship the products from China is basically a question of mode of transport. Air Freight usually takes 5 &#8211; 7 days while Sea Freight takes around 4 weeks. If you’re sourcing suppliers on Alibaba, you’re likely to order fairly large volumes and then Sea Freight is more competitive than Air Freight.</p>
<p><strong>Aliexpress:</strong> Since the products you see on Aliexpress are already manufactured and ready for delivery you don&#8217;t need to worry about any time consuming order preparations and production time. Since you’re sourcing from Aliexpress your order is probably not large enough to make Sea Freight viable. Thus the only lead time you’ll need to take into consideration is the Air Freight delivery time. Alibaba Group didn&#8217;t name this portal Aliexpress without a reason.</p>
<h3>Summary</h3>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-PSKNQf9/0/M/i-PSKNQf9-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Alibaba VS Aliexpress" alt="Alibaba" width="520" height="306"/></p>
<h3>We recommend Alibaba.com if&#8230;</h3>
<ul>
<li>You can buy a few hundred pieces of each product</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>You want to import custom designed products</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>You want to import products with your own logo print or custom product packaging</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Your products are very price sensitive</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>You are importing electronics, toys, plastics or any other product to the EU or USA and thus needs to comply with a certain certification standard (CE, FCC etc.)</ul>
<h3>We recommend Aliexpress.com if&#8230;</h3>
<ul>
<li>You buy 10 &#8211; 100 pcs per product</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Custom design, logo print and custom product packaging are not important to you</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Your products are not that price sensitive</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>You are not importing products to the EU or USA OR your products don’t need to be compliant with any certification standard</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>You need your products right away</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<p><strong><br />
<em>Fredrik Grönkvist is the Co-Founder and Limited Partner of <a href="http://chinaimportal.com" target="_blank">ChinaImportal.com</a>, a Shanghai-based information services company who provides start-ups and small businesses with an online system for managing sourcing and production in China and other Asian countries. <a href="https://plus.google.com/112078025266980467414/" target="_blank">Connect with Fredrik Grönkvist on Google+</a>.</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Chinese VISA application: a complete guide</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Furio Fu</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This article is a complete guide for getting a Chinese VISA. You will discover: The requirements and how long it takes for obtaining any type of Chinese VISA. Where to get a Chinese VISA (either in your country or abroad). The different kind of Chinese VISAs (Tourist, Business, Student and Work VISA). How much it [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>This article is a complete guide for getting a Chinese VISA. You will discover:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>The requirements and how long it takes</strong> for obtaining any type of Chinese VISA.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><strong>Where to get</strong> a Chinese VISA (either in your country or abroad).</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><strong>The different kind of Chinese VISAs</strong> (Tourist, Business, Student and Work VISA).</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><strong>How much it costs</strong> to obtain a Chinese VISA.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><strong>How to convert a Student or Work VISA in a Resident Permit</strong> (it&#8217;s compulsory).</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><span id="more-2813"></span></strong></p>
<h3>Do I need a Chinese VISA?</h3>
<p>Yes, you do. The only exceptions are represented by people that own a passport from Singapore, Brunei or Japan (they can stay in China 15 days without VISA). </p>
<h3>How long does it takes to get a VISA?</h3>
<p>If you have all the required documents and own a passport with at least six months validity and two blank pages, it should take between one (if you can apply for the express service) and four working days to get a Chinese VISA.</p>
<p>The best time to apply for a Chinese VISA is within two months and fifteen days before departure. You can&#8217;t ask your VISA too early because, if you don&#8217;t use it, the VISA will expire after 90 days starting from the day you obtained it.</p>
<h3>How much does it costs?</h3>
<p><strong>The price may vary from 30 to 140 USD according to your nationality, the type of VISA and the number of entries.</strong></p>
<p>Usually for European people it&#8217;s cheaper while American people are often required to pay more than 100 USD.</p>
<h3>Where to get a VISA?</h3>
<p><strong>Generally speaking, you should apply at the <em>Chinese Embassy</em> or <em>Consulate</em> in your country (<a href="http://www.visaforchina.org/" target="_blank">here you find a complete list</a>), especially when it comes down to work and student VISAs.</strong></p>
<p>However  the people that are already traveling or working in Asia may also apply at the <a href="http://www.fmcoprc.gov.hk/eng/" target="_blank">Consular Department Office</a> in Hong Kong. </p>
<p>It will take several working days and it may be an hassle. If you browse the web you will discovered that several people weren&#8217;t able to get their VISA on this way.</p>
<p>Another possible solution is to apply, always in Hong Kong, through an agency like <a href="http://www.fbt-chinavisa.com.hk/" target="_blank">Forever Bright</a>. It&#8217;s a bit more expensive but you will get your VISA faster (within five hours!) and without any problems (I know several people that tested it and it works).</p>
<p>Keep in mind that the government may abruptly decide to restrict VISA requirements as they did in 2008 (before the Olympics game in Beijing any days). I don&#8217;t want to scare you, just be prepared to deal with the unforeseen : ) </p>
<p> Technically you can apply for a VISA also in other countries but do it at your own risk as it&#8217;s possible (probable?) that your application will be rejected. It also depends on your passport: Italian and German people, for instance, seem to experiment much less problems than French and American people. It usually depends on how good (or bad) are the relationships between China and your country.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-jvKxpQV/0/M/i-jvKxpQV-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Chinese VISA" alt="Tourist Chinese VISA" width="520" height="390" /></p>
<h3>The different types of Chinese VISA (and the requirements to get it)</h3>
<p><strong>The basic requirements to get a Chinese VISA are a passport with at least six months validity and two blank pages, a recent photo of 2&#215;2 square inches and an application form. </strong></p>
<p>You can <a href="http://www.visaforchina.org/" target="_blank"><strong>download the application form here</strong></a>, just choose the one that corresponds to the country where you are planning to apply because it may be slightly different.</p>
<h3>Tourist VISA (or L VISA)</h3>
<p><strong>Tourist VISAs are issued to people that want to travel around China or visit their Chinese related.</strong></p>
<p>The basic requirements listed above are usually enough. However, sometimes the Chinese Embassy or Consulate will also ask you for a financial proof, a copy of your return flight ticket to China and a copy of your Chinese hotel booking (<strong><a href="http://www.agoda.com/asia/china.html?cid=1598521" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">p.s. for booking an hotel I recommend Agoda</a> because often has the cheapest offers</strong>). </p>
<p>Hence, before going to the VISA office, be sure to send them an email or call them to know the documents that you need to bring.</p>
<p><strong><em>Single Entry Tourist VISA</em> (that is you can&#8217;t go out China and then enter again with the same VISA) lasts from 30 to 90 days.</strong></p>
<p>Sometimes, depending on your passport and on the mood of the immigration officers, you can also get a <em>Double or Multiple Entry Tourist VISA</em>. It means that you are allowed to go in and out the country twice with the same VISA (for double entry) and you can go in and out all the times you want (for multiple entry).  Usually these VISAs last for 180 days but you have to leave China at least one day after 90 days (you can just to Hong Kong, Macao or Taiwan).</p>
<p>If you are planning to go to Tibet be aware that, beside your VISA, you need a special entry permit issued by the <em>Tibetan Tourist Bureau</em>. Actually at the moment you can only enter Tibet with a travel agency so just ask it to your favorite travel agency. </p>
<h3>Business VISA (or F VISA)</h3>
<p><strong>Business VISAs are issued to people that intend to do business, investigations, studies or training (such an internship) in China.</strong></p>
<p><strong>It&#8217;s usually quite easy to obtain and it may last 180 days or &#8211; but it&#8217;s more difficult to get &#8211; 360 days.</strong></p>
<p><strong>You are required to provide an <em>&#8220;Invitation Letter of Duly Authorized Unit&#8221;</em> issued by a registered Chinese company or organization.</strong></p>
<p>Even if many people use a Business VISA to work in China, this is illegal. If you want to legally work in China, you need a Work VISA.</p>
<h3>Student VISA (or X VISA)</h3>
<p><strong>If you want to study in China for less than six month, a Business VISA will do the trick. However if you want to stay more you need a Student VISA.</strong></p>
<p><strong>You are required to provide an healthy certificate (check the details with the Chinese Embassy on your country), the <em>JW201</em> (or <em>JW202</em>) form issued by the Chinese Ministry of Education and the Admission Notice from your school.</strong></p>
<p>Your school should get these documents and send them to you.</p>
<p><strong>A Student VISA is only valid for 30 days starting from the day that you enter in China. Then you should transform it in a <em>Temporary Resident Permit</em> (Check below to learn how to transform your Student VISA in a Temporary Resident Permit).</strong></p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-tTpc7DR/0/M/i-tTpc7DR-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" title="Chinese VISA" alt="Chinese VISA in US" width="520" height="390" /></p>
<h3>Work VISA (or Z VISA)</h3>
<p><strong>Holding a Work VISA is the only way to work legally in China.</strong></p>
<p>Be aware that not all employers can get you a Work VISA. For instance, small private English schools often can&#8217;t. This is the main reason for which they often try to convince you to come to China and work under a Tourist or Business VISA. </p>
<p>Do it at your own risk because it&#8217;s illegal. If you get caught working on the wrong VISA you will have to pay a fine of several thousands USD and risk of being expelled from the country.</p>
<p>Having said that, many firms and public organizations (universities for instance) are accredited to employ foreign and can help you to get a work VISA as long as you qualify as a &#8220;foreign expert.&#8221; </p>
<p>Depending on the field, you may just need to prove to have English as first language and own a Bachelor degree (if you want to teach English) or you may provide a Ph.D. degree (if, for instance, you want to become a professor at the university). </p>
<p>The logic behind this rule is the following: you have to prove that you are useful to China by bringing some skills and expertise that the country needs. If you can&#8217;t do anything why a Chinese company should hire you instead of hiring a Chinese person? </p>
<p><strong>So, if your employer is accredited to employ foreigners and you qualify as a foreign expert, your employer can apply for your <em>Work Permit</em> (also called <em>Foreign expert certificate</em> or in other ways according to your field of expertise).</strong></p>
<p><strong>Beside the <em>Work Permit</em>, in order to apply for the VISA you should also provide an healthy certificate (check the details with the Chinese Embassy on your country) and &#8220;<em>Invitation Letter of Duly Authorized Unit</em>&#8221; or &#8220;<em>Confirmation Letter of Invitation</em>&#8221; (your employer should get the letter for you).</strong></p>
<p>The Chinese law states that you can only get a Work VISA in your country. Then again, if you surf the internet you will find a lot of stories from people saying that you can also get it in Hong Kong.</p>
<p><strong>The work VISA will also allows you to bring your wife, husband or children to China. They will only need to provide a marriage or birth certification.</strong></p>
<p><strong>A Work VISA is only valid for 30 days starting from the day you entered in China. Then you should transform it in a <em>Temporary Resident Permit</em> (your employer should help you to do so).</strong></p>
<h3>How to transform your Student or Work VISA in a Temporary Resident Permit</h3>
<p>In order to get the Resident Permit, which must be renewed each year, you will have to provide a bunch of documents and an Health Certificate issued by China Entry-Exit Inspection and Quarantine Bureau or HK public hospitals. So yeah, <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/go-to-the-doctor-in-china/" title="Go to the doctor in China" target="_blank">get ready to know Chinese hospitals</a>!</p>
<p><strong>Here the complete the procedure for obtaining a Temporary Resident Permit:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>You get a Work VISA in your country and fly to China.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>You go to the local police station and register yourself (at the beginning your company will provide you a &#8220;fake&#8221; address if you are still looking for an apartment).</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>You pass the physical examination (they will basically check your lungs and blood to make sure you don&#8217;t have tuberculosis, AIDS or some nasty STD). You may have to pay yourself for the examinations (about 500-800 RMB).</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Your company or organization makes an appointment with <em>Public Security Bureau (PSB) Exit and Entry Administration office</em>. It must be done within 30 days starting from the day you arrived in China. You will have to go yourself to the PSB bureau and bring your passport, two photos, the Accommodation registration document that you got from the police, the results of your physical examination, your employment or student documents (provided by your company or university) and cash (I paid 800 RMB but it may vary according with the province).</li>
</ul>
<p>If you got all the documents it should be a smooth procedure and, within 5-10 working days, you will get your passport back with the Resident Permit stamped on a page. The Resident Permit looks like a VISA, the only difference is the name and the background color (blue instead of green).</p>
<p><strong>Remember that if you arrive in China with a Work VISA you CAN&#8217;T leave the country before to get your Temporary Resident Permit. If you leave the country even for a day, your Work VISA will expire. So arrange your travel scheduling according to that.</strong></p>
<h3>Transit VISA (or G VISA)</h3>
<p>In this case you only need a valid VISA for your country of destination and a round trip plane ticket.</p>
<h3>How can I extend or change my VISA?</h3>
<p>Yes, you can extend the duration of your VISA within China. However, to change your type of VISA (for instance from Business to Work VISA) you will have to go to Hong Kong.</p>
<p><strong>I wish you good luck and a safe trip!</strong></p>
<p><em>[Photo Credits (Flickr Commons): http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcgreer/,<br />
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cucchiaio/, http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/].</em></p>
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		<title>What’s Marco Polo Project? Interview with the founder Julien Leyre</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2013 09:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Furio Fu</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[World is small. And the internet is even smaller. In early February I joined the Hacking Chinese Characters Challenge. One of the rules decided by the guy that proposed the challenge, Olle Linge from Hacking Chinese (check it, it&#8217;s one of the best resources out there to learn Chinese), was that we had to connect [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>World is small. And the internet is even smaller.</strong></p>
<p>In early February I joined the <a title="Hacking Chinese Characters Challenge" href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/hacking-chinese-characters-challenge/" target="_blank"><strong>Hacking Chinese Characters Challenge</strong></a>.</p>
<p>One of the rules decided by the guy that proposed the challenge, Olle Linge from <a href="http://hackingchinese.com" target="_blank"><strong>Hacking Chinese</strong></a> (check it, it&#8217;s one of the best resources out there to learn Chinese), was that we had to connect via email with the two people that joined the challenge before and after us.</p>
<p>This is how I got in touch with Julien Leyre who, after we introduced ourselves and our goals with Chinese language, followed up with this email: <strong><span id="more-2674"></span></strong></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Hey Furio,</em></p>
<p>Julien here, French guy living in Australia &#8211; <em>possiamo anche parlare Italiano si preferisci</em>. I run a digital organization called <a href="http://marcopoloproject.org/" target="_blank"><strong>Marco Polo Project</strong></a> &#8211; we crowd-source the translation of new Chinese writing, and bring together language learners online and through workshops to help each other learn.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, that sounds interesting to me. And this is how this <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/topics/interviews/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">interview</a> was born : )</p>
<h4>The Marco Polo Project</h4>
<p><strong>Julien, what&#8217;s the Marco Polo Project?</strong></p>
<p>The <a href="http://marcopoloproject.org/" target="_blank"><strong>Marco Polo Project</strong></a> is a digital organisation promoting Chinese and China literacy through peer-to-peer and crowd-sourcing models.</p>
<p>In more everyday terms, our website offers a selection of new writing from China – short fiction, opinion pieces and social commentary by intellectuals and popular bloggers – and we invite language students and enthusiasts to collaborate on their translation. We also run collaborative translation workshops with native Mandarin speakers and Mandarin learners. </p>
<p>Through Marco Polo Project, Chinese learners can practice their language skills, read new Chinese writing and join a community that actively promotes cross-cultural dialogue; and non-Mandarin readers can discover the voices of Chinese writers. </p>
<p>So we’re both a specialized online magazine, and a language-learning community.</p>
<p><strong>How does it work? Who can participate?</strong></p>
<p>Our editorial team browses through the main Chinese blog aggregators and online magazine, and selects pieces for the website. Our users use a simple interface to type in their translation, or revise an existing translation. And a color code indicates how advanced each translation is. </p>
<p>Anyone can register, anyone can translate – it’s all free. All translations are peer-produced and peer-assessed. And results are surprisingly good. We’re doing a few tweaks now, improving the website and gamifying the system so there’s more incentives to translate, but that’s our basic model. </p>
<p><strong>What do you mean for &#8220;gamifying&#8221; in this context?</strong></p>
<p>Basically we&#8217;re trying to give users a sense of progress. There&#8217;s various elements to it:</p>
<ul>
<li>Validate translation paragraph by paragraph &#8211; so after users spend, say, 45 minutes on the site, they have completed 2 paragraphs, rather than 1/12th of a text.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>A progress bar, indicating how much of a text remains to be translated.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>A better profile page, listing all the interactions of the users, texts they translated, and how much remains to translate.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Finally, points and badges for each interaction.</li>
</ul>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-Vz4Jvgm/0/M/i-Vz4Jvgm-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" alt="Marco Polo Project" /><font size="1"><em><span style="padding-left:120px">Julien Leyre</em></font></p>
<p><strong>Your project looks very ambitious and, I believe, will express its <em>real</em> potential only in a couple of years. What is the main motivation that pushed you to start something like that?</strong></p>
<p>Well, <em>I thought something like this should exist</em>. When I started working on Marco Polo Project, in 2011, I’d been studying Chinese for four years or so. <em>I was desperate to start reading the real stuff, but I had no idea where to find it. </em></p>
<p>I also knew, because I worked as a language teacher for years, that students do translation as part of their course, and all of them go to the bin. I thought we could bring the two together – recycle the work done by students as part of their learning, and bring Chinese voices to Western readers. So I pulled a group of people together, and we built this. </p>
<p><strong>Which are the biggest challenges on developing such a project?</strong></p>
<p>With a project like this, the work hits you from all directions – admin build up, and editorial selection, engagement and marketing, and web-design and development. But the biggest challenge so far is around money – rather, making do without it. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a problem that most not-for-profit organisations have to face: they have a very limited amount of money, so how will they be able to do good work and attract good staff, or keep their good staff, with so little money?</p>
<p>On the other hand, it’s also what most of ‘contents’ industry now struggles with: people want access to good stuff online, but they (mostly) want access for free. </p>
<p>So where’s the money coming from? Freemium? Ads? Government subsidy? Philanthropy? ‘Honesty’ pay-per-view system? Donations? Or indirectly, through public speaking and consulting gigs? It’s not very clear yet, and the answer is probably some combination of all the above. </p>
<p>Also, because our model is new, it’s really hard to get kick-start ‘institutional’ support, government or university. We fall in-between silos. We’re global in scope, and so we don’t qualify for many government grants or even deductible gift recipient status in Australia – which in turn reduces our chances of getting philanthropic funding. </p>
<p>We fall in-between ‘arts’ and ‘education’ grants or scholarships, so typically qualify for neither. And we’re an innovative digital start-up, but not-for-profit, no-good for business R&#038;D grants. So bureaucratic silos are clearly the biggest enemy. </p>
<p><em>People love our project, institutions can’t place it. </em></p>
<p><strong>You define yourself as a &#8220;community builder.&#8221; And looking at the number and the quality of your <a href="http://marcopoloproject.org/online/partnerships/#!locale=null" target="_blank">partners</a> (<em>Danwei</em>, <em>École Normale Supérieure de Paris</em> and so on) it seems that you are quite good at it. What are, in your opinion, the characteristics of a successful leader on the web 2.0 era?</strong></p>
<p>I guess the core characteristics of leadership haven’t really changed: it’s always about patience, courage, and authenticity. But there might be one thing which has become really more central: the capacity to build, inspire and manage a community with blurry boundaries. In a non-web 2.0 context, I believe there’s a relatively clear distinction between your team, your users or clients, and your partners. Not so with us.</p>
<p>I’m the main staff member of Marco Polo Project, I’m also the number one user; some people on our board run partner organisations, while partners often double as advisors; and all our translators are both ‘clients’ of our ‘education platform’ and ‘volunteers’ for our ‘online magazine’. This is the reality we’re dealing with, and we’re embracing it: success for us is about developing a sense of collective ownership. </p>
<p>I think it also reflects in the way we develop partnerships. We publish a regular column on <a href="http://www.danwei.com/" target="_blank"><strong>Danwei</strong></a>, based on our translations, and they link back to our website, giving us traffic, new translators and legitimacy. </p>
<p><em>École Normale Supérieure de Paris</em>, now also <em>La Trobe University</em>, encourages their students to use our website; we provide a free learning platform they can use in their classes. We regularly talk to various other online and offline institutions, and the goal every time is to build similar partnerships, based on the principle of symbiotic collaboration. </p>
<p>So to come back to your question, I think as a Web 2.0 leader, you must be comfortable thinking along those lines: see where your proposal fits in, take time to discuss collaborations, and inspire trust. </p>
<p><em>So practically speaking, don’t be shy of approaching people, put your cards on the table, and if it fails, try again. </em></p>
<p><strong>Beside the internet, you also run <a href="http://themarcopoloproject.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/chinese-translation-workshops/" target="_blank">Chinese translation workshops</a> in Melbourne, the town where you live. What&#8217;s the goal?</strong></p>
<p>I think it’s important for a digital community to develop an offline presence, and give participants a chance to meet face to face. We tend to think of the web and the ‘real world’ as completely different spaces – but the same people actually live in both. You and I met through the web, and I’ve met many friends online, in some way or other. </p>
<p>Workshops are an opportunity to build that connection locally. It’s also a model that can be reproduced anywhere in the world, especially by language schools and universities. So to an extent, it’s a strategic development: it’s a kind of ‘free service model’ we can pitch, that will bring on more users and translators to our platform, and grow our community.  </p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-PKK6HH6/0/M/i-PKK6HH6-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" alt="Marco Polo Project" /><font size="1"><em><span style="padding-left:40px">A Marco Polo Project&#8217;s workshop in Melbourne</em></font></p>
<p><strong>I see, this is how also <em>TEDx conferences</em> could grew so fast. On your <a href="http://julienleyre.wordpress.com/2012/08/13/business-model/" target="_blank">blog</a>, you admit the necessity to add new features to reach a &#8220;critical mass&#8221; of visitors. What&#8217;s your plan?</strong></p>
<p>The web is an incredibly competitive space. Why would anyone visit our website rather than, say, Facebook or Wikipedia? We put a lot of efforts in selecting good contents, and that’s clearly playing in our favour. </p>
<p>But I think internet users have become used to getting super-usable interfaces for free, and have little patience with minor design flaws. When you don’t have money to pay for a proper web-designer and developing team, you get serious headaches over that. </p>
<p>As far as new features go, there’s three main things we’re planning to do. The first is to gamify the translation experience, so translators can measure their progress better. We raised money recently through <a href="http://www.pozible.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Pozible.com</a>, and a few plug-ins are in the pipeline. The second is to develop a better ‘reading’ interface – tablet compatible, with better targeted RSS subscription. The third is to bring in more languages – we’ve had people contact us to translate into German, Portuguese, and Polish. But before we do that, we’ll have to re-think our design a bit. </p>
<p>The plan is to find some kick-start money to pay for solid web-development – or a committed web-developer to do pro-bono work for us. Meanwhile, our beta version is functional, and enough to start growing the community. </p>
<h4>About the internet, foreign languages and social interactions</h4>
<p><strong>I&#8217;m Italian, I lived five years in France and I spent a huge amount of time with <em>hispanohablantes</em> (from both Spain and Latino America). </strong></p>
<p><strong>If there is something that I blame to us Latin guys, is our &#8220;resistance&#8221; against foreign languages. We translate ALL movies, books and TV series. We clone neologisms so that we don&#8217;t have to use English words. We just don&#8217;t give a shit. In your opinion, what are the causes behind this behavior? </strong></p>
<p>I like you talking about us ‘Latin guys’ – Marco Polo Project is named after one like that. I think we’re in a good position to understand China. The country’s had revolution after revolution – like France – and my Chinese friends spend all day talking to their mother on the phone – like my Italian friends. Joke aside, I think China’s definitely closer to Latin or Mediterranean cultures than to the ‘anglo-american’ world. </p>
<p>I wouldn’t say that we don’t give a shit – you and I are conversing in English in this interview, and we both also studied Chinese. But yes, we’re not all desperate to anglicize, and why should we? </p>
<p>OK, I’ve got this theory, which may be wrong, or have some part of right. My grand-parents live in the South of France, in a Medieval town, with a 12th century wall around it. </p>
<p>My father studied in Nimes, and hung out as a teenager around 2nd and 3rd century Roman monuments. My aunt was born in Marseille, which had a rich and complex urban civilization in the 5th century BC. </p>
<p><em>Latin countries have long histories, and that brings a real sense of cultural strength</em>. There’s also lots of exchanges between Latin countries: my grand-mother doesn’t speak English, but during World War II, she got the news from Radio Rome – and because she speaks Provencal, she could understand Italian pretty well. </p>
<p>I think ‘Latin’ cultures offer an alternative to the ‘anglo’ model, with a different set of assumptions and values. I think it’s a model ‘the West’ should explore, especially when it comes to better understanding Asia. </p>
<p><strong>I agree. Countries with a long history tend to preserve and value their language much more than &#8220;young&#8221; countries. Let&#8217;s say it: &#8220;<em>Latin guys are f*cking snob haha</em>.&#8221; And I also agree that we are in a good position to understand North East Asia. As an example, China, Japan and Korea react in a similar fashion to foreign languages. In China they even translate brand names. Thus Starbucks became 星巴克, <em>Xingbake</em>, and KFC became 肯德基, <em>Kendeqi</em>.</strong></p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-j4vG25n/0/M/i-j4vG25n-M.jpg" class="aligncenter" alt="Marco Polo Project" /><font size="1"><em><span style="padding-left:40px">A Chinese Starbucks</em></font></p>
<p><strong>Anyway, while I was browsing your blog to prepare this interview I stumbled upon a very interesting article, <a href="http://julienleyre.wordpress.com/2013/02/06/second-tier-languages-on-the-web/" target="_blank">Second-tier languages on the web</a>, where you pointed out that English language accounts for about 50% of all contents on the Internet while in the real world there are much less native English speakers. </strong></p>
<p><strong><br />
The corollary is that &#8220;second-tier&#8221; languages – Chinese, Japanese, Russian, Arabic, Spanish, etc – are often under-represented on the web. I know that it&#8217;s difficult to forecast it, but I&#8217;m going to ask you anyway. Are things going to change any soon? If yes, in which direction?</strong></p>
<p>Multilingualism on the web is a question that fascinates me. From what I’ve read, no-one really knows what the future will be like. But one trend at least is very clear: the share of English on the web is decreasing. English represented 75% of all internet contents 10 years ago. Now it’s only 50% &#8211; and in all likelihood, that percentage will decrease. So, if I was to predict anything, I would say that the web is going to become a more multilingual space. </p>
<h4>Learning Chinese</h4>
<p><strong>A last question. You speak several languages and are obviously an expert on the topic. How it&#8217;s going your Chinese study?</strong></p>
<p>It’s hard!!!! I’ve been at it since 2007, but I still have a long road ahead of me. Marco Polo Project really helped with my reading – learning new words and ‘integrating’ common ones. But listening and speaking are lagging behind a bit. I followed advice from Olle Linge, and I’ve got an MP3 reader full of <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/chinesepod-review/" title="ChinesePod Review – An alternative way to learn Chinese" target="_blank">Chinese podcasts</a> which I listen to when I walk around: that really helps. Hopefully, I’ll get some sort of grant or scholarship to spend some time in China this year, and cement the things I’ve been learning. I guess learning Chinese is a really good character-building exercise: it does take a lot of patience! </p>
<p><strong>Julien, thanks a lot for taking the time to answer to my questions : )</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>p.s. Last week I asked to the developers of Skritter &#8211; the software that I&#8217;m using to <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/skritter-review/" title="Skritter Review: Learn how to write Chinese characters" target="_blank">learn how to write Chinese characters</a> &#8211; whether they could offer a discount for the readers of this website. And they did. So if you are interested you can just jump to Skritter&#8217;s homepage from <a href="http://www.skritter.com/?coupon=FURIO3952&#038;siteref=furio" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><strong>this link</strong></a> and use the coupon &#8220;FURIO3952&#8243;. Yup, in the case you sign up I do get some money for referring you. It&#8217;s win-win ; )</em></p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[This story is a present from Pietro Acquistapace, the author of the blog Butterflies and Foxholes (sorry, the website is in Italian language). Uchka&#8217;s point of view My travel in China began in Ulaan Baatar, Mongolia. The Mongolian capital was the arrival point of a trip in Fiat Panda through East Europe, Iran and Central [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>This story is a present from Pietro Acquistapace, the author of the blog  <a href="http://farfalleetrincee.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Butterflies and Foxholes</a> (sorry, the website is in Italian language).</strong></p>
<h4>Uchka&#8217;s point of view</h4>
<p>My travel in China began in Ulaan Baatar, Mongolia. The Mongolian capital was the <a href="http://www.saporedicina.com/english/from-italy-to-mongolia/" title="From Italy to Mongolia in a Fiat Panda" target="_blank">arrival point of a trip in Fiat Panda through East Europe, Iran and Central Asia</a>.</p>
<p>Once arrived to my destination the goal was to meet up with my friend Alfredo, who lives in Mongolia since a couple of years, let him my Panda and then&#8230; <em>who knows</em>.<strong><span id="more-2665"></span></strong></p>
<p>The fact that I was arrived in  UB (how the local people call Ulaan Baatar) just after my friend left the town for awhile let me fifteen days to explore the town, which by the way I already knew.</p>
<p>First at all I handled the documents for the change of property of the car to Uchka, a Mongolian friend of Alfredo, who explains to me how Mongolia is risking to become an unpopulated country: it&#8217;s five times bigger than Italy but with only three millions of people, whom two live in the capital.</p>
<p>This describes the situation outside UB: an empty country, inhabited by nomads and with very few towns, which would be more correct to define villages. Of course there are no infrastructure at all, as I was able to find out by myself while crossing the country with my car. Actually the tarmac stops 300 km away from the capital while the rest of the country is covered by mule tracks.</p>
<p>The situation is even more complicated because Mongolia is undergoing an urbanization process: more and more nomads are leaving the countryside, which may reach  -50°C in winter, and moving to the capital with the hope of a better life, especially for their children.</p>
<p>This internal migration risks to alter the social balance of the country, transforming UB in a (mini) megalopolis in the middle of&#8230; nothing. In the city there are more and more neighborhoods of <em>gher</em>, the Mongolian tents, where the poor people live. This is also the main cause for the increasing of criminality in the country.</p>
<p>You have to add to the mix the building boom that is creating a lot of new jobs (also for women) but, in another hand,  is transforming the urban landscape and leading a strong flux of immigration from Korea which, according to Uckha, is connected to the explosion of prostitution and other social problems.</p>
<p>Outside the capital, the uninhabited areas are becoming &#8220;prey&#8221; of those multinationals that see the opportunity of making money by extracting the mineral, whom the the Mongolian subsoil is rich.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-hXF6FVL/0/M/i-hXF6FVL-M.jpg" class="aligncenter"  alt="Mongolia"/></p>
<h4>Drinking and sightseeing</h4>
<p>Coming back to me, I found a room on one of the worst hotels in UB (but also one of the most economic). I will discover soon that the owner rents the rooms to the youngsters, also for just a couple of hours, who come here to drink alcohol, which is forbidden in the street.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear that there is no peace. At the same time, it gives me the possibility to get in touch with one of the aspects of the Mongolian life: drinking. In Mongolia alcohol is omnipresent and you have to drink in order to show that you are a man and that you respect your friends.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m telling you, refusing to drink may get you on troubles ; )  </p>
<p>Sightseeing around the city I notice a lot of beggars with their cats, people that rent phones on the street and a group of homeless that camp under the statue of Lenin. </p>
<p>Beside the statue, there is no trace of the past Communist regime. UB appears as a modern city. Even the music seems to be &#8220;global&#8221; so that it&#8217;s easy to stumble upon an hip hop concert.</p>
<p>I decide to visit the <em>Lenin Museum</em> but I discover that, instead of the museum, there is a telephony center. Before they drive me away, I still manage to make a pic of a statue of the Bolshevik leader that is arranged just below a huge advertising panel.</p>
<p>Art is in a bad shape too: the entry of the <em>Modern Art Gallery</em> is hidden behind a building and half of the collection isn&#8217;t exposed because there is exhibit of photos dedicated to China. This looked weird to be, knowing that the two countries aren&#8217;t really in a friendly relationship.</p>
<p><img src="http://furioworld.smugmug.com/photos/i-2NZTqXR/0/M/i-2NZTqXR-M.jpg" class="aligncenter"  alt="Mongolia"/></p>
<h4>With Alfredo</h4>
<p>Luckily with Alfredo I discover the <em>Tsagaandarium</em>, a new museum dedicated to Contemporary Art.</p>
<p>We also visit the <em>Zeisan</em>, the hill where the monument of Mongolian-Russian friendship is located. From here you can see a new neighborhood full of tall buildings: it&#8217;s where the new rich people go to live.</p>
<p>At night I have an interesting conversation with a girl that works for a NGO: she tells me that the Mongolian government doesn&#8217;t facilitate adoptions, especially when it come downs to girls. The reason seems to be an attempt to preserve the Mongolian &#8220;race.&#8221; </p>
<p>Also, it seems that a large majority of the children that live on the orphanages are left there from the parents that want protect them from the cold.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a difficult country, full of conflicts and with a capital more and more westernized. Overall I find it extremely fascinating.</p>
<p>After fifteen days it&#8217;s time to leave again. Ma I don&#8217;t feel like to come back to Italy. Well, let&#8217;s go to China!</p>
<p><strong>p.s. I translated the article of Pietro by myself. The translation is probably shitty because I find extremely difficult to translate from Italian to English (I usually think and write in English and only after I translate in Italian, which I find way easier).</strong></p>
<p><strong>p.p.s. The photos on this article are by Sara Cavatorta.</strong></p>
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